"And a resume. Say That has a lot of gaps in it because I mean how do you explain that to a potential employer. It'd be pretty difficult to do. Oh I think most people say. They're not judgmental. But I think a lot of people are judgemental. Especially when you're trying to employ somebody and the first fifteen minutes of an interview. I don't think the dirty laundry coming out in the lines will soon and some kind of dabbling right now like I do some design work here and there Nothing that really pays the bills on a regular basis I'm currently dabbling in writing cookbook. Really I mean it's just is. Yeah I mean it's almost laughable. I know for the person listening it's almost laughable but I'm trying to take the approach of an entrepreneurial mind and INSA- all the best business people in this country would have already picked up and moved on in in reinvented themselves might only regret is that I took doc instill have taken much longer to look my wounds than I should have. I need to find That next need that someone has and I need to affiliate and they need to do it. Not In this industry and I'm hoping this goes I gained in. This industry is going to help me Be persevered in that. Are you having a talk with yourself right now. Oh I've had talks with myself for the last three years You know it started early on and where it was you know I. I got out of bed in the morning because I had little kids and I needed to get out of bed. They were expecting me to be mom. Even though I wasn't feeling like Maman today but the handed kids early on I you know I might have shut the shades and sat in the fetal position in my bed all day. I don't know And so it's a daily struggle. You know I still have to remind myself. Take all the excuses. All your uncomfortable feelings sack Amal into a hefty sack doc and thrown by the side of the road when you leave in the morning and when you get into your car start your car Intel yourself I can I will. I'm going to and I need a new strategy That's Angela a former debt collector. If you're getting collection calls that you think might be illegal. You're being harassed or threatened find find your State Consumer Protection Office at USA Dot Gov Slash State Dash consumer the links also on our website at death sex money dot org death. Sex and money is a listener supported production of WNYC studios in New York are team includes Katie Bishop and about Bacon Half Yellow Duke. Emily Boutin Eighteen and Andrew done. Thanks Sandra Ellen for her help on this episode. The Reverend John delury and Steve Lewis wrote our theme music. I'm on twitter at Anna Sale. The show Oh is at depth sets money on facebook twitter and instagram. And you can email US anytime at death sex money at WNYC DOT bork. Do you have talk offs in parenting with your kids. Oh Yes my son. My oldest son is super creative sweetest kid in the world. But he is the one that you know diddle around longer than the most when you gotTa tell them three times to get up and do something and I think I'm constantly talking him off. Come on buddy you gotta do it because of this and I know you don't want to but you gotta push through tough we think and being a mom is a TACO. I'm ANA sale and this is death sex and money from WNYC.."