John Renoir, Joan Renoir, Badminton discussed on I Think You're Interesting


Some of those bear taste signature things that I like to do, but I also don't feel bound to just keep making the same kind of film time after time. Well, we're kinda, we're kinda headed into the end of our conversation here. So I wanted to ask, we kind of started by talking about what's so different about some of these teenagers. Now, what what is still the same about teenagers from when you were a teenager from your parents, teenagers, like what is still the thing that is just across time, always going to be true of teenagers. I think what's always going to be true is that the teenage years are are years in which so many teenagers are really struggling to kind of figure out who they are and and what they think and what they think about themselves and what they think about their parents and what they think about the world. I think it's why it's both an exhilarate. Eating time, and it can be an incredibly painful time I speak from experience on that one, but I think also the teenage years are characterized by, you know, new things, and whether it's like grant kind of having a crush on the girl in badminton class, and we then see how he awkwardly tries to figure out how he can ask her out. You know, when you see that in in the series, I think black white, whatever you are, however old you are. You will remember what that was like to try and figure out the someone you had a crush on what you were going to try and do about it or not do about it. And I think the series is full of moments like that. We didn't want the kids to just be in the series as sort of props or symbols of race and education. We wanted them to be full blown teenagers who are going through all those classic moment. Of what it means to be a teenager and to show you that. And that maybe part of the part of the revelation for, I think for white viewers in particular is to sort of understanding recognize that is Scillies. This may sound is that a lot of what you felt an experienced as a teenager is felt by these kids as well by kids who are black and by racial, they have other things they're dealing with the you never dealt with, but there are so many commonalities of experience to that you can relate to. And I think that's a good thing people to say. Yeah. Well, we end every episode by asking some of our guests, some of the same questions. So I'm gonna ask you one of those and that is, who is the filmmaker living or dead that you learned the most from? But you've never met John Renoir really? Why's that. Well, I when I fell in love with film, it was back in college when I took a film appreciation class that was in the English department and the the class was focused on great autour 's and I was just falling for film and movies and heard it was a great class and we. So we looked at the work of John Renoir who had never heard of. At that time, and it took me a while to understand what made him so great because Joan Renoir had an incredible kind of artless, but poetic style, right? But once I kind of got a sense of what that was, I was just really struck by his ability to kind of capture the complexity and humor and tragedy of life in narrative cinema and to have all these things happening on so many different levels both thematically and even within the frame that I think that his work had a real profound impact on me when I den did eventually fall in love with documentary, because I've tried in my own work, no matter how serious the work is is to have it had that range of what it means to be human and nobody. There's. No more greater humanist filmaker that I know of than John Renoir. Do you have one of his homes you? Would you recommend our listeners checkout if they haven't while there's a bunch shaklee. But you know, I mean, of course there's rules of the game, an allusion, which are the recognized classics. But you know, films like Buddha saved from drowning is pretty terrific..

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