Jake Gyllenhaal, National Space Society, Uncle Bill discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory
We're back with our final segment with Rodney pile interplanetary. Robots? Rod it is remarkable. How Mars one was able to get millions of dollars in investment money. And now they've gone belly up. Yeah. You know, there there is a truth to this among some operations that were like like any other endeavor, you know, their organizations to play it straight and those which may not walk credit straight line. And I don't wanna to Mars one because I don't know the personally that well, I've just been watching it very carefully for a long time. And there is a tendency whether it's a nonprofit or for profit a lot of times to kind of burn the boxcars stoke, the locomotive if you know what I mean, I think there's a lot of operating expenses going on there. They they did have a message that resulted with a lot of people much more than I would've thought actually it was kinda surprising tons of people applied not as many as they said tons of people spend money not as much as they said. But there was a Fairmont going on there. And obviously, it it struck a chord with folks, you know, there's a lot of people that wanna be a piece of something bigger, which is why one of the reasons that promote things like the national space society, the planetary society. Other groups because we want to be part of something bigger than yourself part of this grand adventure. That's a good way to do it Mark. When I was kind of a fantasy from the beginning. Could it have happened possibly was it likely not at all their other people trying similar things you may remember inspiration Mars, which is going to be a fly by that didn't happen. But it it it could worked you know, that wasn't quite as big a leap as Mars one. So you know, I'd like to see if people are going to focus their energies on these things. Join one of these nonprofit groups, and and get involved with something that they let you feel like you're gauge by the way, that's wanna mention I looked it up during the break at euchre's chorus twenty thousand miles across and Jupiter itself is about eighty seven thousand miles. So I was in the ballpark. Okay. I'm all three sizes size of earth. Almost plus interesting with Mars one they were based in the Netherlands, which I find to be weird. And it was labeled as a suicide. Mission because it was a one way trip. Well, they didn't like suicide basically like to call it one way trip toward critics the critics call them suicide mission. Well, there are other problems. You know, there was a kind of a famous smackdown between them and a team grad students and post docs, from MIT who were in the debate setting taking apart their whole life support strategy thing your people are going to be dead within you know, three to four months. No, they're going to be fine. We've done studies. Well, we've got better studies not gonna work. So there was there was some papers written in some good work attempted. But by and large, I think there's a lot of optimism and a lot of dreaming. And we just need to have a reality. Check on these kinds of things because most people I think once they've been there out there's a lot of romance around exploring. It's like the great place to visit. Would you wanna live there forever? Probably not parts of the earth are still better than any other part of the solar system that we know of let's go to Colfax, California. Now, west of the rock. Ke's Chris is with us. Hey, chris. Go ahead, sir. Hey, George by George. I'm talking to you. I can't believe it's you. Rod. Hey. I hide my uncle Bill. My mom and my granddaughter developed air force academy coal venture nocco article people in my family. What was the rocket movie that Jake Gyllenhaal was in? Yeah. Hi, I can't remember. Meet Wernher von Braun. And that was me as a kid. I just loved rocketry my uncle Bill. Marcy hike. Uncle bill. Worked was aeronautical engineer and worked on worked for Martin Marietta, and literally ending module, my grandfather MARCY was a tool and die here that made the machines and made the parts for us aircraft. And like I said I have a granddaughter the air force academy. And no, congratulations to me. She's a really sharp girl and doesn't get to fly 'cause he's not calling and believable, but she's really sharp. Anyway, I can't wait to read your book and Georgie had a guy I'm not too long ago. And I've been telling my wife this for years, and he was talking about we have to leave here. We gotta go. There's been to many extinction level events that have happened on this planet. If we're gonna spy humanity's going to move on. We gotta get outta here. And folks out there if you weren't. A really learn cool stuff go to your history channel. If you can't find the show on the Orion, really neat rocket. But just why we have to go to space and how we'll do it. And I it's incredible stuff. I I'm sixty seven years young someday sixty seven years old. I wish I was born fifty years. I really it's just going to be awesome. Who'd be you know, what you're by the way, the Jake movie might have been. Yeah. Go ahead. What movie was that Jake movie you were talking about? He is a kid and units friends like build rockets actually set the dog on forced on fire. And he does in the end get to meet where Brian he wins, a an essay contest, it's teacher is dying of cancer. And she actually gets to see his rocket watch. And and he goes on the made some degree story. He goes on to work for early NASA, which is just awesome and people, you know, I I'm really critical Nancy. I don't think it's going to get us to Mars. I think it's going to be people by the end must. Gonna get I and I would sign up today. My wife might have something to say about that. But hey, I go even know what I could. I could come back. I would go just because it's awesome. And one more thing while I break in the movie, you're talking about October sky. Is it the religion meeting? Chuck yeager. I helped Bill is home in grass valley, California. And was that that must've been? Cool. I love that. He's really an awesome. You'd be. He really is. God bless our president. And thank you for recognising, the greatest generation in those war heroes, and Buzz Aldrin. I mean, what a bunch of awesome people and were guy we have for president. They take the time to do that. I gotta tell you. I voted for him, and I didn't want. I just. Daltrey unthinkable. And I didn't like him at first I really just want him to quit the tweeting shut up, but he is becoming presidential. And it's getting better every day. We'll see what happens two more years of it to go. Let's see if he can do it. But his polls went up. Indeed. Thanks a lot. I appreciate the call Jack in Abilene Texas with us now east of the Rockies, Jack. Thank you. Good to talk to you. I appreciate your call. And enjoy your program very much. Thank you. Couple of quick questions. When they Mars expedition started a long time ago weren't there. Several. Could a a Crafter a whatever you wanna call it on on Mars, and it didn't come up and disappear. Maybe some of them didn't make it they landed. Maybe. Broadcast. What a number of them that. Yeah. I do. And then also the you say match two billion all fake travel. Ten years. So the first one the Mars question it's been between fifty sixty percent success rate and largely it's gotten better in the last couple of decades as I said earlier, the US has had better locks in other countries except for India their first attempt. You know Mars is tough. It's far away unless you're going to go into orbit around the planet. If you're just shooting a Lander you've got to do it like a rifle bullet, go straight to the planet. Skins the atmosphere goes in and land directly. So you've gotta get everything. Right. And the atmosphere is just a little too thin and the gravity even though. It's only about a third of the earth is a little bit more through the earth, which we eight percent is just a little too much and you just missed this Goldilocks zone. So it's really hard to to slow down heavy spacecraft and make a good landing. And then there's command and control the problem that the Soviets had back in the space race as was they your sequencers instead of true computers like we were starting to put together. And that means that the thing followed its command safe. What's no matter? What you couldn't intervene from the ground very much. And if it got there and things weren't going. Well, it just kept doing what it was told to do it was kind of like a like a puppy in. And so they did have a lot of failures as far as massive immigration goes. That certainly Elon Musk. Vision is to get a second civilization going on Mars sort of backup drive. If you will carbonite Jeff Bezos is a little different the way he looks at it. He believes in colonies and he believes living in space, but his purposes more driven to allow the earth to heal and go back to this pristine form that it was hundreds or thousands of years ago. He just wants to deliver Amazon packages to space. The mood. Yeah. But you know, to really get the heavy industry offers, and and and put it where it belongs which is out in space because you don't have the pollution issues out there. And Furthermore, you know, if you start looking at things like space solar power where you're taking energy from the sun, converting it into electromagnetic radiation, like microwave beams or something and they're saying the back down to earth. You can resolve a lot of this dependence on fossil fuels without having to resort to nuclear so forth. So there's a lot of reasons to get excited about this. But it's gonna take probably a number of very wealthy people with vision, which we're starting to see and the government initiatives to get this done. And we also have to learn how to defend ourselves against the asteroids comets because that's going to catch up with us someday to and I don't see this mass flights of humans in ten years. Do you know, I think some people like to think so I think it'll be very lucky and fortuitous, and I'll be the first to applaud. Must start. Getting is the F are now called starship big rocket going to Mars, but that's only eighty ninety people at a time. That's a mass exodus. Yes. And you've got to build somewhere for them to live there probably underground protected for the radiation. So you're going to be looking at the walls of the cave. You're not going to be looking except for a Caisley up on the surface, you'll take sojourns, but you'll be living inside protected areas. So yeah, I think it's going to take longer because you gotta develop that infrastructure is talking about I t be able to start moving large amounts of people and material on cargo back and forth. But at least we're getting started. And that's the exciting part. We're here. Jeff in Goldsboro, North Carolina's with us now Jeffrey, go ahead, sir. Rod. Hi, george. Yeah. The name of that movie was Tober skies based on a book by Homer Hickam. Yup. Number of the national space society I-, I urge people to support that. And I'm going to try and get to the conference this summer..