Jim Gray, UM, Intern discussed on Murph and Mac
To the Murph in Mac Show with Brian Murphy and Paul McCaffrey, where the Giants and 40 Niners flagship out here in San Francisco, But it's funny. I'm looking through Jim. I don't know whether to ask you about your sports career or I'm looking here. You've interviewed Presidents Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump So nicely done, Jim. Good morning. How are you? Good morning, Murph in Mac, How you guys doing? Thanks for having me on. Yeah, well, it's been a In a lot of it's been a great great life so far, and, you know, I wrote this book talking to goats and just decided May as well put in the president's is well, I'm not going to write another book, so this one's going to take it again. I'm going to take it all and put it in here. Yeah, it's called talking to goats with a forward by Tom Brady and Jim, I guess. You know, Sort of my first question would be sort of like how you found yourself. What? What would you attribute getting into the position to interview all these people? We mentioned the world leaders. We all know LeBron James and Tom Brady and every other major sports figure. But if you had to tell like a young aspiring sportscaster, how you got there, is it just simply hard work. Other breaks along the way. Um, how do you get to where you get when you get to interview the best people in the field? Well, you have to have breaks along the way and you have to have a lot of people and I would say that the people are the most important thing in the relationships that you could develop. And and I was very fortunate at a young age to have great mentors when I was an intern in a sports video tape editor back in the late seventies. The first job that I had was a channel nine kptv in Denver. And you know if you get people who care about you, and you're willing to show that you that you will do whatever it takes to, uh uh, you know, try to become a part of the organization. All the things that nobody wants to do back Then it was ripping the wire longing. Highlights of games, making calls for the sports anchors and sports reporters. Um Watching videotapes pulling out the best sound bite. It's just doing all of those little things that you hope somebody will notice you. Um, and then developing a relationship on Biff. You're you know if you can connect with people and they can and you can get them to somehow taken interest in you. Because of that hard work and dedication. I think they'll find that they'll get lucky because I had to create some of your own luck. Some of it is pure luck, and some of it is pure happenstance. My first interview with Muhammed Ali Because they couldn't find anybody else in the station. I was 18 years old with 7 30 in the morning. I was only one there. They thought that I knew sports because I had been a sports intern. And his plane was 2.5 hours early, so they sent me out there to do. It was the first interview I ever did You find that that didn't have anything to do with You know, uh, being being dedicated or discipline or anything? I just happened to be there. So you need a maid. A confluence of all those events. It sounds like a reminder of the old Thomas Edison 99% perspiration. 1% inspiration, Right? Just keep work and keep showing up. Keep doing your stuff, kids. That's the lesson, Jim When it comes to interviewing, Um, where do you think we're just study? The art? Did you? Did you have a mentor? Did you look a lot like a Walter Cronkite or Howard Cosell? Or or did you form your own style? How did you How did you form your interviewing style? I, you know. Watch television sports with my dad growing up and we would go to games. But I love Curt Gowdy, and he was He was kind of local for us because I'm from Denver, and he was just across the border and Wyoming So we kind of would watch his events and he got to do all those great events, you know, and not only did the FL games, but he also Doing the final fours and the national championship in the Rose Bowl. And so we were always really proud of Curt Gowdy. Kind of being from, you know, a Rocky mountain man and you know the amount door sportsman. Um, So, uh, I listen to him and I loved Howard Cosell, and there was a local man who did the Broncos Nuggets and back Then there were the Denver Rockets in the A B a games. His name was Bob Martin so anyway. Would just listen to them. And then I got older and got this internship on became a video tape editor because all the guys were getting out of film they were converting from film to video tape. So They all took the union by out a bunch of young guys and girls get the opportunities. Videotape editors. Well, when I was sitting in my head it boots all the time. Would be there late. So I started watching Johnny Carson on the Tonight Show. And then I would also came up in the era where America was held hostage and Ted Koppel would come on the ABC stations with Nightline and I was working at the ABC station. So I started to watch both John Johnny Carson on one monitor and Ted Koppel on the other and thought that they were so remarkably similar because they could listen. Think and react simultaneously. They were great listeners. They could process the information and they could react with the question right away. So I would watch those shows every night after the news in my edit booth before I drove back to Boulder. You know, this is remarkable how great they are. And so I kind of I don't want to say I studied them, but I just had such great admiration for them, and they just wouldn't watch them all the time. And I thought, Boy, if you could do that. You could be a success in broadcasting and they were two totally different people. One was a comedian. And the other one was, you know, a newsman who was trying to gather information, but they both were trying to get to the same place, which was to inform the audience. That's good stuff on the art of broadcasting with Jim Gray's got a brand new book out just in time for the holiday season,.