Dotcom. Welcome back. The panel is joining US NBC News chief White House correspondent Hallie Jackson, New York Times correspondent Michael Schmidt, author of The new book, Donald Trump versus the United States. Look for scoops galore in that one. Michelle Sindoor, White House correspondent for PBS NewsHour and former Republican governor of North Carolina and Radio host Pat McCrory. Welcome to all of you. I'm going to start with Showing our apocalyptic campaign frame that both Trump and Biden created at their conventions. Take a look. He is the destroyer of America's jobs. And if given the chance he will be the destroyer. Of American greatness. He's failed to protect us. He's failed to protect America. The hard truth is You won't be safe in Joe Biden's America. Donald Trump's failure of leadership has cost lives and livelihood, Sze Hallie Jackson. This isn't a campaign where you're wondering, Jeez, boy, Both sides are kind of running on the same message. It's pretty clear and I tell you we heard those messages. Two people were killed. We had three people killed this week and essentially what? Maybe political protest. We're injuring uncharted waters here. I mean, you're you're completely right, Chuck. And it's something that we're gonna be hearing a lot more about from especially the person that I cover President Trump. I'm told by sources over the weekend as I was coming on the air with you, Chuck that violence in the streets. Quote unquote will be one of the three central themes to the president's campaigning in the vice president's campaigning, moving forward over the next 65 days or so, along with what they consider to be a focus on what they see is an improving economy as well as talking about the corona virus and what they're doing to try to mitigate the pandemic if you will, whether or not It'll be effective messaging for people remains to be seen. But this issue of violence is one that you've already seen the president, his allies, his surrogates talking about. They believe truly that this is going to be something that will motivate people to get to the polls. It's a message the president is expected to take on the road shock. I can tell you that he is going to be travelling a ton over the weekend, he was telling allies that he wanted the best and most aggressive travel schedule. In the words of one person I talked to. He knows he can't win from inside the building. So it's a message. The president We'll be taking out on the campaign trail heavily over the coming weeks and days. Look for him to be in Florida looks to be in North Carolina. Obviously, Michigan, Wisconsin. I've heard a lot of talk about Minnesota's well, Chuck Where are we right now? Where's the Biden campaign? In this moment on your mind? Abiding campaign agrees with essentially one thing that President Trump said during the RNC, which is that this is the most important election in the history of the country. Both of them are making the case that this that this election is going to be changing lives and as you as subject, Richmond told you. They see this issue of Unarmed black people being killed in the streets is low hanging fruit that America should be able to get this right. So they see. This is really pitching this Ford and saying This is the chaos, the desk that we're seeing from Cove it as well as the death that we're seeing from African Americans at 2.5 times the rate of white Americans at the hands of police that this should be the central issue we heard over and over again. They pitch this as a It's a battle for the soul of America. That's the messaging that you're going to hear over and over again, and they're really going to be making the case that President Trump failed miserably on the Corona virus. I thought it was interesting as I was covering on the South Lawn of the White House today that gathering of people with no mass sitting Soldado shoulders cheering on the president on this hot summer on this hot summer night in D. C. The White House transformed completely. Into AA convention space. The president started making the case that the United States was one of the best places when it came to death rates in America. So his idea his and the plan there is going to be to try to paint this rosy picture and to speak about the virus almost as if it's in the rear view mirror. We've course no that that's just not true that the United States affected only the India in the number of new cases were seeing every day about 42,000 cases, along with the death rate being that one of the worst If not be worse in in terms of modernized industrialized countries, So those two things race and the Corona virus are going to be top of mind for Joe Biden. Of course, he's gonna be hitting the campaign trail after Labor Day as well going to all sorts of states that he sees it's credible. McCrory. How does the president not walk a line and not look like he's rooting for violence? You know, Kellyanne Conway and Friday making the case that somehow the that she believes this helps them. There's this line and look, there's the times you look like from a political perspective. It's almost they can't it's O. The violence can be helpful politically, and that can come across as almost looking like he's rooting for it. Well back in May when I was on this panel right after the sad Minnesota riots and protests, I gave a warning. Do not underestimate the anarchist. And I actually think a lot of democratic mayors and democratic governors and even Joe Biden underestimated. The anarchist and the feeling that people will have especially the middle class, both black and white against people who attack our police who want to defund our police who come across his anti police. When most people in America are in favor of the police, they're not in favor of bad shootings. Terrible. Horrendous shootings..