Deadwood, Jane, David Milch discussed on Fresh Air
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You know, I didn't really have a particular interest in, in the John, but I was interested in certain themes, which originally had hoped to engage in a series about the city cops in Rome at the time of Nero, the they were called the urban cohorts and what I wanted to examine was how forms of order, imposed or discovered in the absence of law, but HBO is doing another show set in room. It's like the old joke about the, the Aston, -tations Jewish family. That goes to Kenya? There could buy mitzvah than they, they have to wait because there's another mitzvah ahead of them. Anyway. They were doing a show about Rome. And So, Chris Albrecht and Carolyn Strauss suggested that I try and find another venue in, which I could engage the same seems. And that's how I came to deadwood deadwood is a lull spot. Would you describe why? There was no law in deadwood, because it was an illegal settlement, it was on land that had been stolen from the Indians, and there was a concern by the thieves either the, the white prospectors that if they pass laws, they would be perceived as setting themselves up as a government, and ultimately, they wanted to be a next to the United States, and they wanted their claims verified by the United States. So, so they agreed that there would be no laws whatsoever. In fact, when murders took place, bodies word disposed of rather. Than buried so that there would be no evidence, so that there could be no trials so that nobody could say that they had set up a government. One of the main characters in dead. Wood is a Montana Marshall who quits his position as marshal and then travels to deadwood in the hopes of starting a hardware business with his partner. So this is an interesting character to, to write about someone who had been a law man. And is now in this place that is totally lacking in law. Yeah. He was a real guy. Seth bullock. Bullock was drawn to the idea of a lawless settlement because his. He had such a radical ambivalence toward the idea of law. He was a guy who was kind of cursed by conscience. And he had a, a predator natural sense of responsibility, and from which he was all part of it was always in flight. And for him the appeal of, of deadwood was, there would be no opportunity to be a martial. There would be no opportunity to generate the kinds of obliga- Sion's, which would distract him from the pursuit of his private goals. And of course, as, as alcoholics find out, you always take your problems with you. And, and he took his and sure enough within four months, he was he was Marshall again. One of the characters in dead. Wood is calamity Jane. I think when we think, of clarity Jane, we think of Doris day who played her in the movies, we think of a character whose rambunctious, how would you describe your version of clarity? Jane. What is it based on a well, it's based on fact calamity Jane was. A profane. Terribly conflicted personality who idolized Hitchcock, who was kind to her and sort of resolutely, refused to acknowledge her hickok. This is her having kind of renounced her femininity clammy. Jane was always getting thrown out of towns, because she was too obscene even for the miners. She had the foulest mouths of all, and she, she was. A victim of protracted abuse as a child and had kind of renounced her feminine identity, I think is as a form of self protection, and she always prided herself that she could out, drink anybody, she could outwear, anybody. And, and. Yet with Hitchcock. She was. Oftentimes, very demure, and I would hope if the series accomplishes, nothing else, it will expunge the association of doors day with Clinton, he Jane and sport. So what, what was wild Bill, hickok doing in, in deadwood? He was kinda looking to die. Hickok for me as a research. The subject was the, the first victim is I perceived it in America of, of media celebrity, and what we do to our heroes. Shortly before going to deadwood he had actually had a warrant issued against him for Bates in, in Cheyenne. And he had married a circus performer, who wanted to take care of them. And within a couple of days, he, he booked he left down and told her he would make their fortune once and for all in deadwood, but he never prospect it from an he was drunk and, and playing cards, his whole time out there and really tragic figure, and with a certain amount of self awareness which kind of heightened, the pay us, I think of a situation David milch, speaking to Terry gross in two thousand four more after a break. This is fresh air..