Disney, China, Mulan discussed on They Call Us Bruce
Low, , and welcome to another edition of they call us Bruce unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asia America I'm bill you and I'm Jeff Yang and this will indeed be an unfiltered podcast. . It is one which we are going to used to. . You know spend talking about something that we've been wanting to talk about for a while waiting to see for awhile, , and that is Disney's live. . On which released this weekend right before Labor Day and immediately generated quite a lot of opinions some of which we have. . And we have guests, , schools, , opinions in some of them <hes> our guests <hes>. . We've seen quite a lot of in somewhere new. . Who have with us? ? Phil? ? We have making her third appearance on they call US Bruce. . Quite possibly a record. . Record record. . Our good friend <hes> formerly journalists of the with the Hollywood reporter most recently, , she did a profile of Tima in Vanity Fair. . Are Powell Rebecca Son Rebecca. . Welcome. . Thank you. . I'm here to reinforce and ensure that my title as most frequent they call us first guest. . On. . Challenged. . Bring honor to us all. . We also have a first timer on the show hopefully, not , the last frankie. . Hong who is a freelance writer and illustrator and Frankie also grew up until age nine in China and has a pretty solid grasp. . I think of some of the larger context around the film both as somebody personally in in more immerse perhaps in Chinese culture than those who grew up here but also just from being able to read and understand the conversations that are going on in. . Chinese about this. . Conversation's. . Break Welcome, , to the show. . Thank you for having me. . So excited to chat with you about this. . Well, , the conversation has been proceeding Apace has a not I mean literally the show. . The movie itself <hes>. . debuted Friday, , and I think that's we don't have any metrics yet that feels like a lot of people in have been streaming it despite the way that it's being presented and I mean, , maybe that's the first thing to talk about a little bit like. . The film. . You know how the film has changed over time how it was what was meant to be in where it is now today in this time of Of Covert in quarantine in theaters basically being shot I think I wanted to ask if <hes> maybe everybody could share their relationship with the original film because that's that will serve you know color a lot of people's. . The way they perceive this this new one right. . Rebecca. . What was it like watching the original Milan and how did that impact actually shape? ? This one for you. . Yeah. . Well, , for me, , I <hes> you know sort of your classic ABC asian-american Crawl one in the bay area you know live here lived in America, , my whole life, , and so I was I'm looking this up now and I was actually not cured with anime tomatoes teenagers. . So I think I was sixteen when I came out <hes>. . Even, , though I was no longer a small child I, , what I remember most palpably was bursting into tears at the end of the animated film when Milan she's at the Forbidden City and she turns around and it feels like the entire country is kneeling and bowing and Reverend before her and the swell like I remember for years after that, , like you know even without we watching the film just thinking about that moment. . Just swallow emotion. . Kind of being unprepared to see that image of of somebody who representative you know about as exactly. . Who I was, , you know just a small Chinese girl could be treated with such respect and honor. . Listen. . <hes> you know <hes> and reverence that was so moving. So . that's what I remember most about you know the animated law and I think the way that made me feel is is sort of what I treasured about that movie even though it was, , you know I haven't seen it in such such a long time. . And Frankie in you grew up until age nine in China, , right? ? Yeah in Beijing was. . Yes. . But you but you did also see Milan and I'm atrophies theaters or at home or so I was already living in the US by the time Mulan came out. . So I washed it in Missouri were I was in the fifth grade and I think. . My first exposure to Mulan the figure was actually when my mother taught me the ballot of Milan and made me memorize recited back to her. . So this character was already one of my favorites. . You know this <hes> cross dressing heroine who bests all the boys that was basically my dream I wanted to. . Show everyone how amazing I could be. . So you know I wasn't super. . I had very mixed feelings about it because even as a ten year old I was you know I had trepidation about whether or not Disney was going to do a good job representing my culture, , my country. . So but at the same time, , of course, , I was really proud to see that they chose a Chinese story <hes> to bring to the big screen. . So when I saw it I think I continue to feel mixed because there were these moments like the one that Rebecca described was incredibly moving but there were also these little things that day I guess. . I don't know if I would say they got wrong because you can tell a story a story Harry you want, , but it's more like there were very clear league. . American narrative elements that were meant to. . Get, , a reaction out of American audiences. . It makes sense but as a Chinese viewer I just thought while if you're going to represent my culture, , why don't you get it right? Why ? don't you think that the? ? Quote Unquote correct representation can't also get a reaction out of Americans I remember when she dressed up for the matchmaker in the face was all white I just thought well, , this reminds me of Geishas much more so than Address up Cheney's lady and maybe geishas is much more recognizable symbol. . But why can't you just make her look uncomfortable as? ? A Chinese woman rather than something that looks more, , Japanese. . Their stuff like that. .