Joseph Martinez, Atlanta, Gabriel Heights discussed on ESPN FC
Now why do you want the drama and also to top things off if there's one player you cannot alienate on atlanta. You simply can't do it. It's joseph martinez. Don't you just love. The i like i was saying to doug. I just picture this in my head of like joseph martinez walking over to grab a bottle of water and gabriella of being just like. What are you think you're doing. How do you think joseph martinez would respond to that. Like oh i just imagine his face. I think he'd last. Like i think he would just lie. I don't think he's a guy he doesn't strike me as a guy who would get angry getting a shouting match. I think he just kinda liked smile. Laugh drink the bottle water and then probably like throw the empty bottle of gabriel heights is fee. That's what i i think. He would remain laughing as he choked. A second off front of you know unbelievable stuff crazy. Really crazy but Yeah it's and i also think. I tried to tease it out a bit with with dog. Which is this like you know. They talk about the nfl. A copycat league coach does another coach will do that kind of that kind of thing and soccer in many ways is not maybe not a copycat league but a a world of where there are accepted truths on one of the accept truth is that be elsa klopp style football and that kind of intensity is absolutely what you need to be doing. And you shouldn't deviate away from anything on. Atlanta literally tried to re energize the spirit of a previous manager and taught domenichino abi elsa disciple to and it's just blown up spectacularly in their faces and i am so curious to see what direction they go in. No i mean. Where do they go now. Because that loop rindt stop who print has burned. I'll tell you what a A certain dutch manager with some atlanta history is now available. Suddenly the frank four years. Don't feel so bad do they. He said did. Did i hear a quote a did. I miss misread this or is this. Was this some fever kidding me. I'm kidding everyone. I know but did i read an and our listeners will will tommy i. I see where too much information on the internet. But that deboer devore's agents said he would be open to a return or something like that. Oh really yeah. Maybe i. Maybe i wasn't. You know what. I had not seen that you talk a little bit and i'm going to have a look at. I'm going to a look for that. Because i surely saw it somewhere. May maybe maybe they try ronald aboard this time. Yeah and based on ronald's own comments about his brother. It seems like their philosophies are actually quite different so maybe maybe that would actually be beneficial and workout for them. I don't know i don't know what they do. I will say somewhat. Doug had to say about the The hierarchy at atlanta. And some of what you've said you know boccanegra seemingly having a falling out with tom martino and cat like then from there going the route from they're going the heintze route like atlanta those guys heels bocanegra have experienced in an incredible amount of success in a very short window. They have energized that fan base. In a way that we almost haven't seen elsewhere in terms of you know teams who have just like exploded on the map and can immediately put seventy five thousand people in stadiums consistently so they. They've done an amazing job. But you're right like at a certain point like divorce was probably strike one This was definitely a manager who has seventeen games and that's a falling out with an entire team. That is very much. That isn't emphatic. Strike to now. I don't know if they're working to turn them into human prunes i. I don't know if they're working on three strikes system here because they definitely built up a lot of equity with how they built this game. I said but these are. These are now things that are starting to build. And they're gonna have to get this next one right Doug roberson of the ajc. Which is the atlanta journal constitution newspaper. Doug is there reporter. He tweeted this on july. Aiding so two days ago. A person familiar with frank deboer. And i'm being serious. Said he would be glad to return to atlanta united and mls. So one hat is in the ring. There's something there is something deeply deeply tragic though about the frank deboer managerial story. These last few years like comic tragedy. Just i can't tell you how good a larry was. I can't tell you how the deboer name was revered and football. Yeah and this is while. He's the punchline on this podcast now yeah kind of not what you want. No no. Thank you joe girardi. That's about it for part. One of this podcast. Jj i actually one more thing the last thing. I want to say that. Doug was talking about there. Because i meant to mention this guy earlier but back to the gold cup for one last second here okay. I know. we talked about some of the concerns. I did want to say about james sands how good he's looked. So far that has been encouraging miles. Robinson has also looked very good. I saw kristen ran was talking about him. He said miles in particular saves us so much running with his one. V one defending such a fantastic guy to watch and the way he covers. Ground is something that we love about miles so he has been bright spot. And then the most intriguing one which i mentioned last week's podcast and i'll say it again today. I'm so glad that shack moore scored a goal. Because i feel like statistically that kind of validates how good he has looked to see that he does have a goal in that column next to his name because he has been so interesting and like doug talked about and we said last week as well there is a log jam now at right back and this moving forward in this gold cup. I am genuinely curious to see how greg bear halter handles this. Because like doug said reggie cannon is the first team player had. He not suffered his injury before this tournament. He would be starting and we would not be seeing shack. More accepting cameo appearances may be against martinique. We would've seen a more. But that is reggie cannons job and shack. More right now is doing absolutely everything in his power to force. Greg bear halter into making the most difficult decision than he'll have to make in this tournament. Potentially because jack moore has been excellent. And i don't know how you take him out with the way. He's playing now. Maybe his leashes shorter. Now that reggie cannon is healthy again maybe you just kind of move forward with the sense of okay like you have earned the spot you've done. Great will go forward but just know there's a guy banging on your door who is ready to play so at the first sign of trouble. Maybe he gets yanked out of there. But i give him credit i give credit because he got this opportunity and he is making it really really hard for greg. Bear hall to pull them out of there so his case in particular will be interested in going forward. Just want to get get that out there because he's been good. He's scored the fastest goal in.