Um, so we have heard, what point did you say? You know? No, I really want to pursue this seriously, what, what, what got you to that you read the book? If you've ever seen He's experience sleep, uh, it was kind of uh, uh, as we're seeing Shearer very seriously in high school arms prioritised school. And that's I I really like tone over because the arts just would kind of. Yes. Um, but for music I didn't really makes that decision until I think I like my first semester all It's just kind of went through there for being. 'cause I was enrolled in one roles on, in our knees. We'll see her program at NYU and repay left off to supporting, for whatever reason, putting them together. And so we do both fearful where m- wasn't really kind of fell out of love with it. Um, and I want it to Olympia jasmine or when it's just 100 wasting my friends sitting at a know and creating a lot of, um, uh, so it was 10 of transition between He's we'll theater, CIA. And the two writing my own songs they face and assigning my own out. Um. So and also It was also kind of place needed it very much at that point. Um, because I was struggling with a lot of personal transitional stuff, And I struggling with like a lot of spotty emitted misuse them a lot of. Our I'm within eating dinner, you must choose. So music was really the only thing that was. That was dancer mean um, during I just started towers. That makes sense, John, it makes sense. It sounds like any kind of that's kind of asserted. I guess my like fields off songwriting on the nice conflict, just the decision to pursued as a career was between that moment. I was like, just like juicing meeting hit on a daily basis. We can eating tree in meetings Tillis music. Um, also with like a talent crush of mine who I saw with transitioning from, like any supposed to either to pursuing music who's actually blowing up right now. Uh, so yeah. Now as a so, so this is so music and songwriting sorted became like a kind of a therapeutic thing for you is that Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I think there is this what I was saying teaching the time for strict. Okay. Absolutely. Um, so tell us a little bit about because the lyrics, um, are really interesting. Um, you have a great way of an emphasis in the bio here, The story telling It's definitely kind of what you doing. That is kind of like a I I, you know, here that is much in music today new And uh, you know, like I would we were talking before we started the the podcast about daddy's money, which is a great song. And, uh, and he have this way of kind of just putting it together with great imagery and stuff like the hounded. How did you arrive at that? Are there I that putting weird set a focal point near to what had to, to really making it to really kind of being able to because not everybody does that. I mean, that's a that's a sort of like, uh, lyrical, uh, with with wit with what I want to go a lyrical device in and of itself. You know, Singers from the singer Shamma 70s like a Harry Chepe and and uh, people like that were really noticed, you know, they would tell stories in the songs in your kind of doing that right in your music. You know what I mean? It's awesome that everybody does kind of what? While hot, what is a conscious in you do or is it just feel like with natural to you? Um, Rushing things started off as a very therapeutics. Approach That's where I I it was kind of just like my way is set to myself These song, but also heard a lot of artists and I listen to you. Q and a lot of. How do you put a lot of, I guess, focal point on earlier explained especially during Well, I don't know about Saudis monies that especially during us on a song. Then I was writing or from about to release that I was writing a couple of years ago. Uh, I was listening. How does this sets with Leonard coin's is like the ultimate weird pool. Perfect sense. Um, so who is really a poet before it was a really important for musician. He's he's. Um, so I was trying a lot of my information from him Like I was I wrote about how you see this month to rate popular young If you want to get a song for theft. And that's how I used to write a whole lot as my songs like funding just enormous silent. I'm that's on the surface obstacles. Um, so I don't do as much anymore, but it was. That was. I guess how my first profits Perth. Okay. Well, and it evolves over time unit as you do more things as you approach it, definitely at you develop as an artist, your process sometimes will will change as well. Um, and that. So let's go ahead, You you, you and I were talking. You've got a new song coming out, a rescue me that this is going to be released soon. Sowa. You want to go hand debut that here. Jerry I fail Okay that we're going to listen to rescue me by Jackie Palomino and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about the Salk. This is rescue me by Jackie Paladino on the loose v rock and roll circus.