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I think that really had a huge impact on me to be Yes, I was at a suburb but I wasn't by no means was are the only black kid in school? I wasn't Skokie uh, and Eva's still is very diverse. And I went to school from with kids from different socio-economic backgrounds, different races, different religions, different. Ethnicities and it was like going from, You know, the All Black school to say by the bill, but it has a hospital a I remember hearing intercom than I was like, What is this? What was happening? And it was just great. I really flourished. And I'm grateful that she did that. Uh, because it really help shape the person I am. When you move, Did you already know you're again? Hm. I know it out was gay since I was young, I think it I mean young Like Young, like five or six I think most gave people or queer people. No, there's something different about them very early, but I didn't know what to call it. I didn't have a a name for it. And I think that's a big part of that is because while we live in a very heterosexual society, but also of the living in the house with black people, That's not something they're talking about is not something that was talked about in the media Allott. And I so I just had no name for what I was. I just knew I've tended to stare at girls and more than I stared at Boys. That's all I knew. So do you think moving to a diverse neighborhood meted easier in Lome run for you to come out? I don't think anything makes it easier for anyone to come out at big government out is the most difficult bang anyone can do. And this is nothing easy about it. I think me moving to Los Angeles and being away from our family a little bit, gave me the freedom to explore who I was and be free to do it without getting caught without somebody seeing me. Uh, being myself and reporting back to some one of my family. I think moving to Los Angeles and I didn't do that in two thousand six even though I knew obviously about when I was in college in and I I went to Colombia College in Chicago, so I was still in I was living at home with my mom. So I wasn't able to have the experiences one has when you go away to college something a bit part of that is because I wasn't really Chicago yet. I just I just wasn't ready to leave. And then when I did finally leave. Asprey mowing Zebit And I had a real sense of freedom for the first time, and I could admit to myself that I was acquitted person. You Road and episode for as he's on sorry, series master of non in which the character that you play. Um, who is a lesbian comes out to her mother. It's a flashback episode. It's it's the Thanksgiving episode at and that starts with your character And Aziz on Sarah's characters who are best friends. Um, at your house for Thanksgiving because every thanks giving, He comes over to your house and celebrates Thanksgiving with you, your mother, your aunt, and your grandmother. And then as the episode goes on it flash forwards a few years and then a flash forwards a few more years. And then a few more years within each proud of the episodes set during a Thanksgiving dinner. And in the early episode, the early part of the episode as kids you come out to is these. And he's kinda like, Okay. All right. As both firms say, Yeah. And then later in the episode. Would you come out to your mother at like a diner, a restaurant? And, um, I want to play that scene because this'll the episode that you won the Emmy for coal riding with with his his. So here's your character and your mother who's played by Angela Bassett at a restaurant where you're about to tell her. How you this tall And you don't play basketball? I now asserts basketball scholarship would have come a real handy right now. 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