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It was cold written encode directed by my guess Lianca, rich and Adrian Molina, Anchorage also directed toys story three and Code erupted, finding the IMO Monsters Inc. and Toy Story to Molina worked on route to eat toy story three and monsters University Coco is told from the point of view of a twelve year old boy named Miguel who lives in a small Mexican town and loves to play guitar. Sometimes I think I'm cursed the something that happened before I was even gone C in a long time ago. There was this family The book by He was a musician. He and his family would sink in Davos encounter blessings. But he also had a dream to play for the world. And one day. She left with his guitar. And never returned. In the momma, she didn't have time to cry over that will definitely be sufficient. After vanishing, all music for life. She found a way to provide for her daughter. Key rolled up his sleeves and she learned to make sure those after forbidding Miguel to play music, His family has been preparing him to enter their shoe-making business. The film takes place on the day of the dead. The holiday in which the living honor their dead loved ones for reasons I won't give away. Miguel is transported to the land of the dead, where he meets his great great grandparents and other long-gone relatives, and hopes to learn why he is obsessed with music and why his family forbids music. Miguel has to figure out if it's possible to be true to himself while remaining true to his family. The living and the dead. The movie is also about how we keep the debt alive by keeping them in our memories. The Anchorage, Adrian Molina, Welcome to fresh air and congratulations on the Golden Globe. Thank you very exciting. Can't in Q. So I want to start by talking about day of the Dead because that's the holiday that is supposed to unite the family, The ancestors, as well as the living people. So what is the day of the dead? Well, the day the dead or DEA D'Amato Sardinia deluxe more toast depending on where you live. And where you grew up is a is a tradition in Mexico that happens once a year. It's the first couple of days of November, and it's a celebration were essentially It's a time for families to remember their loved ones who are no longer with them. And they actually believe that their ancestors, their loved ones are returning to be with the family. It's it's kind of like a family reunion that spans the divide between the living and the dead, And many people will build a friend. Does these kind of offerings in their homes? Were they'll put out photos of their loved ones and they'll they'll put out foods that they loved in life? You know, sometimes you'll see, you know, two litre bottles of CoQ sitting honey a friend if that's something that somebody loved the idea being that they're coming back to be with the family and celebrate and in part take of things that they loved in life. And Adrian out has a hard even celebrated in your family. Uh, when I was growing up, No, Not so much my mother's from Mexico, but where she was raised, They didn't celebrate the them would have both the same way that we saw when we did our research and Oaxaca Michoacan. But there was definitely in the way that the family talks about death and talks about remembrance and and talks about being connected to stories and people who've passed. That was something that was familiar to me. That was something we're at any funeral afterwards. The music would come out and the food we come out and the stories would come out and that sense of not accepting death as being final as much as knowing that that imprint that that person left on your life is important to talk about is important to celebrate. That was a kind of my access point for the story. So they Anchorage, What does stay the dead meaty. 'cause you're not Mexican. I am not. I am far from Mexican. I actually Delta. Are. Well, I did when those ancestry dot com kits and I was praying that I would have just even a tiny bit of life, a Mexican descent, but it didn't work out that way. I am very, very much eastern European Jewish, So no Mexican blood in May. So I, you know, I grew up Jewish and Cleveland in the suburbs of Cleveland, And you know I had I had I think a pretty typical American relationship with death, which is that it was something kind of hidden away a little taboo cemeteries were just kind of grim grey places devoid of color. And you know, in my own religion, We have this concept of the art site, which is a yearly remembrance of people who've passed on on the anniversary of their death, and it's kind of a, you know, to somber time and. You know, as I started thinking about the film that I wanted to make next after toys story three, I was reminded of this kind of fascination that I'd had with D where to us for a long time for many reasons. Um, I was drawn to a lot of the folk art, and a lot of the I cannot AGEFI that people are familiar with, but I think I was also interested in the notion of a, a culture, having a different kind of relationship with death than what I had grown up with. And, um, you know, so I started doing a lot of research in earnest early on and, um, you know, the more that I read in the more people that I talk to this whole notion of this remember, it's not being this kind of somber time, but more being a time of of of just joyously remembering people and in gathering together as a family to tell stories. Um, you know, to pass stories along to the next generation. It just it. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful, beautiful, um, celebration And I am a sports. I wish I could roll back time and introduce these ideas into my own family because it's a beautiful thing, and it's something that were deaf and my family's definitely embracing now. Uh, moving forward. My own father just passed away a few weeks ago And, uh, you know, he's very much going to be perched on our friend at the beginning of November, referring to correct me if I'm wrong with like an altar on which you put the offerings. Dear answered, yes, to remember them. So I'm sorry to hear Allegra fatherly. Oh, thank you. Yeah, he was. He was quite old Well, I mean, I think he's about ninety three years old. He mentally was completely there all the way till the end, but physically, he'd been declining recently. And I was actually very fortunate because I, I had been on a big pressed to her as we opened, um, cocoa in Europe than different places. And when we got back from that, I had a window of time were things slow down. And my dad just happened to fall into decline at that moment. So I was able to travel to where he lived in central Calfornia And, um, be with him for, you know, the last couple of weeks of his life, which was very meaningful to me. And the other thing that was really meaningful was that I was able to show him cocoa. He was too frail to visit the movie theaters. But um, I, they set me up so that I could show it to him off a laptop and it really meant a lot to both of us because I I There was part of me that worried I would, uh, that he would never get to see the film because, you know, we spent six years making it and he would even joke about, you know, Hurry up, finish the movie. I wanna see it before I die. But he was able to And he watched the movie and it was Less than a week before he then passed away and must hand beautiful for him since it's about honoring your family and honoring ancestors though it. Yeah. My dad was this before getting. Yeah, my dad was a my dad was a funny guy of while the funny in a He's very stoic And, um, it brings a smile to my face to think of what he said to me after he watched Coker the very first thing he said was all that was different which is very bad. That was very my dad. But I through that I knew he was very proud and in very happy that he got to see the film as we were talking about day of the, which is the ceremony that the movie is focussed around. In the movie, you depict the afterlife depict the ancestors who are now skeletons who are being summoned back for for the day of the dead. Um, in in a lot of Christian imagery and just American pop imagery in general. The afterlife is like in the clouds with like angels and Harp's and, um, uh, fi, you know, Angels flying around. The after life as depicted in the film is skeletons, Oh, walking around in the land of the dead and they they know each other, They talk to each other parties. They play music. Um, How did you decide how you were going to do pipped This after life that you came up with? You know, I think most human beings Think about the concept of an after-life regardless of their religion or non religion, and, uh, and they think they want to know what that place might look like. And so the way we tackled that in our story, Luckily would, you know, by embracing this idea of the final death and that there there's kind of a beyond the Beyond. Uh, we were able to just kind of have fun creating a almost like a a waystation like a temporary place. Wall Wall souls are remembered where they can just live joyously and especially around data Martos which is when they're coming back every year to visit their families. You know, we figured it would be a very celebrates Tori colorful kind of a place. And so that's what we really leaned into from the beginnings uh, creating a world that would capture that celebrate Tori feeling and, and I really wanted it to have it kind of a quintessential Mexican nece. And so it ended up being very influenced by a lot of. ACeS, we visit in Mexico, Um, primarily this beautiful city called Guanajuato, which is a city that's kind of encrusted into a kind of a, a Valley, and it's filled with beautiful colorful houses that are growing like coral, almost all round the these hills. And so we really embrace that in, you know, we came up with a can of rules of our world of the land of the dead. And like we had rules about, you know, there wouldn't be any handrails or guardrails in the land of the dead Because everyone's dead already. They don't safety items. You know, if somebody falls off the top of the building, It's more of an inconvenience than anything. The idea of this like intermediate place where the Dagestan kind of alive, it's based as you said, Lee on the idea that you remain alive in some way, as long as you are alive in memory. As long as there are people who are remembering you are. Uh, that you still, in some ways, are alive when the people who remember, you die, or when the living just forget you. Then the dead moved to like the final death and they can disappear from this intermediary place between life and death. And it's really interesting way of looking at at that, that the afterlife is memory. It's the memory of the, of the living, a, a drink. You talk about coming up with that idea. That was something of it we had learned in our research. This thought that there are not just one death of there are three deaths that a soul can experience. One is when your heart stops beating. The second death is when you are buried in the ground and are never to be seen in this world again. And then the third and final death is, is that one that is attached to memory. And when you are forgotten the vet, you disappear that that is the method by which you remain attached to the world. Are are the memories that come your way And the really wonderful thing from a storytelling in from a thematic standpoint that building a world on that idea gives you is that for some people, This is paradise because they're remembered fondly and with love and everything that they did in life. They get back in the afterlife in visits to the people that they left behind in the things that they offer them. And then for others. Did Not a paradise It's, you know, they're straggling along and may be the memories that they're getting aren't fond, and maybe they don't have long for this way. Station world. And vet did a lot for our main character Miguel, to be able to reflect on what is my part in this legacy of family And what am I going to be remembered for And what's important in these relationships that that I'm building throughout my life? And you know, It's lovely because it was wonderful to explain the story in it was also linked so closely to the actual beliefs and actual traditions associated with near them worthless. Now, this is a family film. A adults are supposed to bring children thi. This film though You don't need to filter into enjoy the film as an adult, but it has to be child-friendly And so much of the movie is about death and the dead, and people who might be dead soon and how that seen through a child's eyes. So you couldn't make it like a terrifying story. About the debts were message, did you want children to take away from it and were similar things that you did in the film so that you know children would enjoy it and be comfortable with a story that you were telling while I'm glad you said what you did about, You don't have to have kids with you to go see the movie. 'cause I can't tell you how many people have said to me. Oh, I haven't senior fill me up because I haven't been able to find kids to take with me. So I saw without kids and enjoyed it very much. Thank you. The slight, my biggest pet peeve is that people somehow think that we're making kids movies and that they're embarrassed to go see the movies about kids. But at that, the fact of the matter is is that when we're making our films, we don't think about kids all that often and we were not We don't see ourselves as making kids films were making films that we want to see, And we know the kids are going to be a part of the audience. So we make sure that there are appropriate, So yes, sweet. In this case, we knew we were making a film that had death is part of the subject matter, but we knew that the film wasn't about death. It's not about grieving. It's not about coping with death. It's. It's very much about life and family and death just happens to be part of the backdrop of the story. And we need the notion of death to tell the story. But I've learned over the years that kids are much more resilient and wise Then I think we often give them credit for since you work on cocoa for six years. He means you starting Internet way before. Donald Trump ran for president. Let alone was elected. President was the years before you knew he'd be calling to spend billions of dollars building a border wall between the US and Mexico years before he said that Mexico sends as their worst, the rapists. Um, so I'm wondering if the meaning of doing a film set in Mexico about Mexican people about families, If the importance of that And if the meaning of it changed after the campaign in the election were It's a long time coming for Latinos to see themselves on. Screen represented in a way that they can be proud of and in a way that reflects the things that they value about their culture and the value about their families. And that was something that we were all very excited about, um, working on this film, But as the climate changed, all of a sudden it was something that was necessary. Something that I think the community really needed to here spoken aloud because oftentimes, You know, you never hear it and you never see it and for a family to go and see them cells reflected on screen The way they experienced their lives and, and see that shown to the world means a lot. Uh, it it means a lot for your self esteem and it means a lot for for, uh, how you see yourself in the world. And so the the the story didn't change, but the context around it really made the something of that we only knew more So, uh. We needed to get right, And that could be, you know, very killing for people. What Leon garage, Asian Molina, thank you so much for talking with us. Thank you. Thank you. It's so fun to be here. The Anchorage and Adrian Molina Cole Road and co-directed the Disney picks film cocoa.