Nasa, Thomas Zurbuchen, Steve discussed on The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe


Going to do? You can get off, yes. This is what you get. I don't know. A lot of the work that I do involves sitting. There's no way around it. Exactly. So I think the important thing there is that when you don't have to don't. So if you have to sit, let's say, just like I do, right? When I'm doing therapy, I'm sitting for the whole therapeutic hour. I'm not going to walk around. You should start a practice of exercise therapy, where you're on with your bike while you're doing therapy. Well, I have weirdly had like dreams of doing group therapy in the future that involves kind of like movement and yoga and just being somewhat more active during group. I think that would be awesome. But yeah, let's say I'm seeing a patient for an hour or Steve, let's say you're seeing a patient in between patients do a lap around your house. Yeah. Get up, move, and then come back. Don't just sit there straight through. And if you can speak to them through some sort of digital avatar or something, I don't even have to see you exercising. It would still be your voice you would be able to hear them fine. It would just be the face and everything. I would remove it all over the place. Were you really want that from your therapist? Yeah. Digital avatar therapist? Steve, get those stand up desks, you know, when you don't have a patient in the office. Yeah, just all you do is you just lift it up and you stand up and it's up at head height and I'm seriously getting considered getting one of those. Press the button and it rises. It works well. All right, thanks, Kara. Yep. So we've talked previously in every you just brought it up earlier with your Skinwalker Ranch segment about The Pentagon's investigation of UAPs unidentified aerial phenomena well. Phenomena. Earlier this month, it was announced that NASA is getting into the game too. That they are going to be launching their own independent investigation of UAPs. They'll be starting it in the fall and they said that this research program should take about 9 months. This is what NASA said in their announcement. They write NASA believes that the tools of scientific discovery are powerful and apply here also. That was Thomas zurbuchen, the associate administrator for science at NASA headquarters in Washington. He goes on, we have access to a broad range of observations of earth from space, and that is the lifeblood of scientific inquiry. We have the tools and team who can help us improve our understanding of the unknown. That's the very definition of what scientists, that's what we do. This is interesting. It's good as far as it goes. I have no problem with NASA investigating this scientifically. I think they should. They make a point of saying that the big problem here is the lack of data. The reason that many of the sightings are not explained, is not because they're inherently unexplainable, it's because the data's crap. They just don't have enough information to make a positive ID. That's it. And so more information will likely yield more of these sightings being explained. I do think that taking that kind of approach is a good one. However, here's a downside, right? This has provoked yet another round of the media talking about UAPs from a very gullible perspective. And the mainstream media narrative is just extremely frustrating. So one piece of that narrative is, again, that there's somehow among scientists this stigma against investigating unknown phenomena, which I don't really see, to be honest with you. I think that's just the narrative that they go with. Like, oh, you know, if they have to feel like they have to defend themselves out of the gate or say that, you know, that the skeptics don't want this to be investigated. It's like, no, that's actually not true. I'm happy to have more data. And obviously, if, you know, pilots are reporting things they can't explain. Without in any way introducing the notion of alien spacecraft, that's a worthy phenomenon to investigate. So first of all, there's lots of stuff in the sky, you know, we're putting more and more stuff up there all the time, both civilian, private, military, domestic foreign, et cetera. And so knowing what those things are is good even for nothing else just to make commercial airline navigation safer. If it turns out that people are running a lot of drones in that area, then that's a fixable issue. For example, and also, we need to learn best how to interpret the data that we're getting. If pilots, pilots are seeing things they can't identify, they need to learn how to be better observers or how to gather more information or what the things could be or how not to be fooled, et cetera. And so that's useful information as well. We learn about human perception and the limits of these instruments and all that stuff. It's all good. All right, but the bigger part of the narrative that I really saw a shift, I don't know if this is because NASA got on board. It was maybe the trigger, but there were other components here. But now I'm reading just a lot of mainstream media articles saying that there has got to be something going on here. Now we have multiple sightings of things that are breaking the laws of physics by trained pilots and The Pentagon and NASA are investigating it..

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