Icwa, Alami, Supreme Court discussed on All My Relations Podcast


Never not been native. And the way that that manifests in her showing up in the world is huge. It's huge. And it's like, I have, you know, little jokes about how the first she loves communicating an emojis. She texts me an emojis on my husband's phone. And before she could spell, she would text a little emoji of a little girl, heart, and an emoji of an adult woman. And she was always more brown than me. She's like you're still figuring it out, mom. But like, I know. I know that I'm Brown. I know that I'm native. So in my own identity confusion, I still have come to a place where I understand that I want my children to grow up in a native family. And I feel like that's kind of, you know, not that I feel like I should be sitting at the Supreme Court. Arguing, but I do feel like that's really the thing. It's like, look, I am I am an example of assimilationist policies. I am a perfect example of it. I was white. I thought. And did not understand the value of what I did not have. I did not have a comprehension of what was missing. And had said to one of our producers on the film at one point, that I felt like my native friends looked at me like a three legged dog sometimes and I was like, but why does it matter? Like, I know how to get around. I'm getting around fine. I might be missing this native identity element, but I'm functioning fine. And the more I have learned, the more I have realized, what that limb is. And that it's really not just a limb. It's like a heartbeat. So I feel very strongly that while I don't begrudge my adoption, I don't begrudge the way my parents raised me. I do feel deeply that the circle has the circle of my children knowing their ancestral land. Learning what we can teach them and recognizing that it's not going to stop with them. I'm enrolled, but because of blood quantum, my children will both descendants. And when I came home with my card, when I finally enrolled and I showed my enrollment card to my kids, she got so excited and my son gave me this huge hug and they were like, you did it, mama, you finally did it. And then she was like, when do I get mine? And I was like, baby, I'm so sorry. You're a descendant. You're not going to you're not going to enroll because we have a maybe the rules will change. Maybe the tribal change their minds and what she says. Because she's a child of a doula and she knows things. And she was like, so you're telling me, okay, so I just have to go get some sperm from a lumpy man. And I was like a whole episode about that. What? I can help her find something. She was like, if I get some sperm from alami man, then my kids can be mummy, and I was like, yeah. Yeah, and my son was like, I'll have some sperm, and I was like, okay. Not you, not you, buddy. But this, you know, my children understand. More than I do. And they're still not going to have as much. As they could have, but that's why I think that ICWA is important. I think native children should be raised in native families. A 100% because of so many reasons. So many reasons. Well, let's just talk about before we wrap up, let's just talk a little bit about how people can be in support of ICWA and what they can do right now in their own lives to advocate in meaningful ways. And yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, despite the fact that the Supreme Court Justices are off in their wood paneled offices noodling around about our futures. And typing and I don't know like sipping their coffee and just I don't know what they do. I don't know, I don't know what they're doing. That's what they're doing. And they're robes, you know? Like wrinkly robes. No. You're just spending your time ironing their roads. Yeah, that's all they're doing. So what can we do? We can do. We can do is there's this protect iqua campaign that is kind of a joint effort of the national Indian child welfare association along with the Native American rights fund and I think I believe illuminative maybe is also involved, but you can sign a petition there to continue to support and show your support of the law that the law of the land should remain the law of the land. So I encourage you to go to protect ICWA on Instagram. And I think you can also Google it. They have a website, I believe. So that's one way. You can reach out to your in the worst case scenario that ICWA is overturned. There is still states rights to go back to states rights and you can go to your California state or Washington state or whatever state you might be in and demand that there's still continued support for the state ICWA. Now Montana where we live actually does not have a state ICWA. And it should. Because we have a very high native population and I just have to say shame on senator Danes are Republican senator who is on the Senate committee of Indian affairs and did not sign on to the amicus brief in support of the law, so I think that's a big that's a big alarm bell to our native communities for our next election to see really where he lies as far as native issues. So I'm just going to go public with that about my feelings about senator Daniels in New Mexico and Utah, Utah just passed yesterday or two days ago have sample laws of how a state can make a state level ICWA. So there's models for other states to follow. If they want to make sure that at the state level, this remains the law of the land, New Mexico and Utah and I don't know if there are other states who have done that as well. So there's still hope for protecting native children in adoption, even if the Supreme Court overturns the Indian child welfare act. And I'm going to be hopeful. Yeah, I mean, listening to the oral arguments, I feel like, I don't know. It's a real talk of real time. Unfortunately. Yeah. And it feels like my gut is saying, my hope is that it's not going to be fully overturned but I think they're going to poke some holes in it. And that'll be a bummer. Yeah. And with that, I'm going to say thank you so much for being a guest on all my relations podcast. We're really happy to have you here. We'll continue to follow your work and support your documentary. Which you can watch on PBS right now on America reframed. So I encourage all of you to watch daughter of a lost bird. So join us in thanking our amazing guest Kendra and Brooke. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm lumped.

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