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"They did to the rams. They didn't beat the rams they may have ended their season. And this whole run might be now for the Ram. Their quarterback stinks. They're running back where they spent all their money on stinks. Their coach doesn't have a clue how to deal with the fact that he's got a super bowl hangover and he's lost some of the great talent and I think the ravens have showed what the Hawks have showed showed the last couple of years which is run right at Aaron Donald and he's not nearly as effective izzy is when you try to try to throw the be willing to bet my power shovels first round. Pick in like five years. Yeah I'd be willing to bet my podcast salary that the first game that Greg Roman the coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens went and looked at the very first game as he prepared for those rams an opponent they don't see a lot I put in. Was that game where they ran for. Nearly three hundred on these sure Ryan was like how did they go about. Oh that's how they did it. Oh Wow they just. They just was physically demolish them at the point of attack they ran gap empower. And and then you know mixed in a little. QB Run and we got this student. That's playing faster than anybody in the League right now. That's the crazy thing about Lamar like to your I. It used to be Odell. It was to Sean Jackson. Like you'd look at a certain player Percy Harbin that he is faster than everybody buddy else in this league grubber third college when he was playing. Just like wow. He's literally a different athlete than everybody else in the fact that new griffin after Ooh that up. I don't like that so fast. Yeah just a totally different thing now. can the secondary do that against actual receivers. We saw them do it against Philadelphia. I've been there taking guys off the street and stand against on digs and dealin on Monday night. Yeah if the Lennon's back I know he's been out with a hamstring and I mean it will be a different challenge especially for trey. Trey is a guy that when you're going to match up against equal dudes of his speed. He's going to do what he did when he has to. Face guys trays a four six guy. And he's got a face four three or four four. He's GonNa just give them naturally more room he's going to just have to stay on top he's just going to have to give them some more cushion so they're going to maybe some of these matchups with some of these teams. It'll be a little more challenging and in particular Monday night Stefan digs a guy. The seahawks paid a lot of attention to in this match up a year ago. Oh I mean a lot of attention with their personnel and we'll probably in some ways have to do the same but Shaq Shaq's plan yeah. I think he's competent. And as awesome. I I you know they. They see if you get cloudy back. Of course you should. I hope for that Monday night. And all the sudden you start looking this seahawks just have their whole defense is completely turned around around just as the calendar is getting ready to turn to December go figure Pete Carroll has kind of stepped in and worked his magic and shown why he's been one of the best defensive coaches in the league over over the course of his career so Hoxha put themselves in great position prime position to have a first round bye they are a heart attack group more than adrenaline group. But man really really fun to watch art few. NFL notes coming up here in a minute. Some Husky conversation the mariners have made a move or two Kevin Burkhardt going to join us and the return of an old school favourite Alta. Come Getting Ready for the coin toss. What's IT GONNA be it's for? BSP Brown Sugar Bourbon. SP One zero three stock up per game day at your nearest retailers Esp Brown Sugar Bourbon gig harbor Washington thirty percent alcohol by volume. Alright thanksgiving week. I know family is around. My family is here. My parents Sir are in town for the way which leads to I know you guys give me grief and say that that can be a contrarian at times that I have to strong opinions on things that you should hang out with my dad for a week. I swear if you think like. We're watching the talking about Saturday night. Live is like oh I should see who was on last night. I kind of clicked over to the to the guy just to see who's on Saturday night live tapes. Now I also I might. I hate welfare right. We'll Farrell's not my favorite either. I do have a country and opinion on. We'll Farrell's strong opinion. They talk. He's not my favorite. But I love old school like I. Love Will Ferrell when he's Kinda I thought he was great on. SNL last week when he started played it a little more subtle. So Your Dad's an opinion down immediately ought not funny. Never said anything funny TAT. Stand up like dad doesn't insane tone swear to met Larry and you'd be shocked or Larry and Jane listened to the podcast gene. They were they were they were the whole. I'm still listening. All over and dad knew how to operate a podcast. Say what Mike Mike thanks. My Dad's sounds like the goat. No idea what we're talking about so anyway that's We we went with them to see frozen to frozen to Ah eight-plus not necessarily a movie overall. But for the for the very narrow line they had to walk. Yeah probably as much pressure in that movie as any movie in history to try to Try to live up to live up to frozen. It's up there for sure it's up as ma. Maybe not I mean there for a few others in any star wars movie but it's after Star Wars especially Well episodes what four and episode. It was a one one seven those enormous pressure on the mall so you are and one of them failed. One of them succeeded. I would say this absolutely succeeded in walk. Did you see how haven't yet I think you'll like you'd like the first one I thought the first one it's complicated it's it's a whole nother high enough itself just fine anyway it was really get the music's good good humor the animation. What they're doing animation is crazy? It's insane like the computer. Animation is just crazy so gets a full throated recommend also for me. If you're out there this is going to be like a little potpourri segment village of little things Let me let me hit you with this one and I mentioned it last week on the podcast Casper I Kinda Wanna I kinda WanNa dig into a little bit deeper. I'm becoming more and more convinced that there will never be another statue at quarterback in the top three of MVP voting. And maybe we you know a golden child will come along. Maybe peyton Manning's kid one day we'll show up and you know the one that was molly fed mashed potatoes or whatever it was Ashley Feeding Haley. Haley mashed potatoes. Maybe maybe NEO is out there. But I as you watch this next generation of quarterbacks quarterbacks it's really hard to imagine that there's going to be an NFL team that takes a big time chance on a statue of quarterback. Because how are they gonNA make it all the way through high school and college coach to get there. I'm GonNa take this conversation two ways and I'm going to tell you Monday night. There was a little event we had Damon Andrews Apple Cup wind just awesome even though the teams her six and five and not the PAC twelve north on the line but it was a great atmosphere and it was funny because the Monday night. Football game was on in the background at the Little Pre party Andrew Daymond or watching the marling good thing we played our. He played the same position as that. That's exactly I don't think drew bledsoe is the number one pick in next year's draft. Probably not he's not probably not no taken that no one was that he crushed back. Number two is one year ago we were talking about an NFL. That was now going to be about mahomes off often fifty point Monday night game. And if you can't throw the ball you can't play in this league and you from the pocket. Yes I'll give you. Don't just take these efficient yards like this game is giving you these yards. You gotta be throw pro team and you've got to do it that way. The throw teams have quarterbacks that can move like at some point the worm turned on this and people started looking at saying wait. Why am I taking like if you can have a quarterback that can do both? Wouldn't I prefer one point the MVP conversation and to build your team around was cam. Newton Colin Kaepernick Russell. So Wilson Greg Roman about seven years ago had this whole zone read deal in. This is the new wave of the NFL. Like you've gotta be able to run and capper upper nick and Newton and Russell and these guys are changing and rg three but the scheme. This I get it that schemes change. I totally understand. We're GONNA talk more about some changing schemes here in the minute we get to the ravens schemes change. I totally agree. And anytime you start thinking the game is only going to allow this scheme. I'm not saying the game is only going to have running quarterbacks because they're doing in read option running draws or any of that or that. Lamar Jackson is the future. That's ridiculous I don't think that I'm just saying if you're a statue at quarterback why a cool you can do that but how are you going to compete with all the guys who can do everything you can plus more. Yeah can you compete with the guys who can throw for just as many arts and be just is accurate have just as good a deep ball. See the game just as well as you want as you do but also can run an escape and throw on the run and run read option and run draws. There's not many of those guys sure. I'm pretty sure like every year we're getting at least one more I see in college. I think as people have opened up their eyes and minds lines to the idea of a huge different group of people playing quarterback in middle school and then high school and we're finally seeing the fruits of some of that open-mindedness now playing its way into the the pros. I think there's going to be more and more every year and that doesn't mean they're all GonNa be Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. Yup but I'm GonNa Guess that we are going to see more and more guys who can do it all rather other than guys who can only stand back there throw. Yeah I think I think there is a degree of fairness to that I would also add. They have one enormous advantage. And that's what drew in Damon said like you can't hit these dudes you know twenty years ago. You could punish them pyle drive them. You could hit him you. Could you know you try to knock them. I heard from Mike Pereira last week on the podcast. That's that's not going away. No it's not so. Tell me. Drew Bledsoe Peyton Manning Brock. You're how do you make it in today's NFL. Because you still can be an artist from the neck up in amazing ways and you but you have to be an artist you cannot be a blacksmith. BLACKSMITHS are done in today's NFL but if you are an artist that can get that bought Patrick Mahomes and run that much. No he does but he's not some tremendous athlete. He's a tremendous throw the football. Pretty good f you say good athlete. He's a pretty good athlete. Nowhere near Lamar J.. I'm not very bright. But he's not peyton manning. Sure he's not standing back there waiting to get hit not a Tom Brady. I mean he's not and I'm I'm not saying that those guys won't still exist in the NFL but when you get to those MVP races and you're saying okay. Who Do I want the guy who stood back there and through or the guy who also stood back there and through and ran for three hundred and sold in this in this upcoming draft? You've got Justin. Herbert you've got Jacob from you've got to tug of low off of a hip injury. Now you've got Joe Borough. Who's who would be the closest to a statue there right so on Herbert's statute to he is? He's a much better athletes who've though cam but he didn't really played played. I didn't do that so you know it's you kind of look at that list and say all right. We're is that or the year but the year before those guys will get drafted this year which somebody else will end up being better the same way. Lamar Jackson being better than the guys chosen ahead of him. They could be. I guess to my point. There's not a lot of Jackson's out there and just call in these college games in seeing. It's as you know there are there are tremendous athletes. There are some amazing throwers to find that blend. Lamar is is pretty unique. I'm just looking looking at the guys that are having success even in Buffalo. What Josh Josh Allen who stinks he can't throw what's he doing runs? Yep He's a better runner than he is a thrower then end buffalo's one eight and three or something like that so far this year. They're not very good but he's got a defense and he can run around enough.."