Jim Otis, Jim Hannifin, Don Coryell discussed on Dave Sinclair Lincoln and Ford Sports Open Line


Dan is our guest is continue here with sports and more. All right now, you come back in Bob hallway shorttimer he's for two years two years and maybe one year too long. So here comes a guy named Don corio who was from the west coast and everybody liked Don coryell and everybody thought he deserved a chance. So he gets a chance. But he brings along another guy with him. And this is maybe where your career started to go in another direction a guy who led the country receiving as an end. And now he's a line. Coach talk about that relationship with coryell saving the offense and baby basically saving Jim Hartz career. And then he comes Jim Hannifin. Well, you gotta understand something. This was pre ESPN. This was pre three hundred channels. There wasn't a guy on our team that I knew that had any idea who Don coryell was he was a coach at San Diego State. He might as well have been coaching in Honolulu or Japan. It did back then California. We didn't know any right? We didn't know anything. And so he shows up and he's now the head coach of of the cardinals. And he has back then coaching staffs were much smaller compared you see it now or teams have. Seventy one coach. Yeah, we'll back then. Don, coryell had three offensive coaches. The wide receiver quarterback coach was rod. Our the line. Coach was Jim Hannifin and the running backs coach was joking jobs. And for five years that staff remained intact. And by the way, before you asked me a question, I will say if you would have pulled any of the players, we would have I guarantee you that we would collectively said the guy with the least chance to be a successful head. Coach would be Joe Gibbs. Just because Joe is. Widest the group at all is a good thing. Joe was an array source data law. Visit the glue factory a lot sooner oil. Yeah. But how about that for that election of talent incredible? And when you talk about those guys the think at that point because there wasn't as much information available. I mean, you can dial up anything anytime these guys really had to coach people up. Oh, yeah. And that that's a great difference compared to what you have now. Well, Joe Gibbs coach two thousand yards out of Jim Otis. If if if that didn't indicate that he had hall of fame potential with nothing else. Sure committee room. They're like, okay. Why is Gibbs he has his name? Hey, coastal Jim Otis four thousand thirty six. Unanimous three point nine yards. Well, he didn't have a rush over twenty five yards that year, he broke a we have we have one class. We have one classic piece of footage. Jim Otis breaks into the open. He's got like sixty yards of open space in front of you. And there's a there's a shot where he turns and looks for Steve Jones because he wanted to lateral before. And you know, we only laugh about Jim Otis because I'll tell you something tough Hombre. Oh, God he was tough and he never lost yardage. That's the thing that you appreciated about Jim Otis. He he was he never bounced it to the outside. We used to call him the king of cutback Shimoda was going between the tackles. And you know, what I appreciated that? You know, when you talk about Jim Morrison that men been blocking for him. Let's talk about that offensive line. They Mark you guys down for eight sacks given up, but actually it was seven because one was actually was six, but okay, we're down tell me about it. Well, it was the right? The one the one they got Jim Bakken Jim Bakken and got caught behind the line of scrimmage on a fake field goal. And they ruled that that was an attempted pass what a crock so that was one of them. The other one was we are mopping up against the New York Jets. It Shea Stadium. We're being and they they take heart out of the game. And they put our backup quarterback in guy named Gary quasi Gary Keithly quasi. Always here. Earlier easily was also to ponder too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They put him in a mop-up. He audibles to pass and get sacked. He gets. So we are standing at the fifty yard line of Shea Stadium back then and I am restraining Dobler. Chris Conrad is going to beat him to a pulp now, this might have been great footage. I should have let him go because it's not every day. You see an offensive guard beating the holy crap out of your own quarterback at the fifty yard line. But he had it coming. Speaking of visa, so we had legitimately. We gave up six sacks. And I'll tell the one thing we did. Which was really amazing. This was a fourteen game season back then. At the end of seven games halfway through the season. We'd given up zero somebody got sloppy and say we went seven consecutive games unheard without a sack, and I know some started away on Jim Hart. It started away on everybody a little bit. But one of the things about heart. He had a quick release. Was he could cut it loose with anyone while he was you knew where he was going to be. He wasn't France. Arkansas is not going to be an and people go, well Jesus and make it. No it makes it an offensive lineman. It makes your job easier. When you know where your guy there's nothing worse than running your guy field knowing full. Well, you're taking him out. Right. The perimeter of the pocket, and then the two of you run over your quarterback because he's on some mad scramble. So yeah. It was. But we were very proud of that we were that good pass blocking. Speaking of which you said physically assault offensive line play. Then compared to what we see. Now there were literally there were salts taking place on the field. I mean, we everybody knows the story about Colorado voter, but the way Jim Hannifin taught how to block basically if it was done anywhere else. Somebody would be arrested. Well, Jim Hannifin. One of the first times we were in a meeting with him. He told us he said, I want somebody to go get the book where it says defensive linemen are meaner and nastier tougher than offensive lineman. I need somebody to show me where that's doctrine where that is the way it's supposed to be. He said, let me tell you something. I don't believe in it. And he told us that we are going to be the nasty physical dominant group on the field not the defensive line, which is the way I think everybody's coming up. You know, the defensive guys are the tough guys, and he didn't want to hear about that. And so and back then we weren't allowed the rules for offensive lineman were kind of archaic we compared to today. I mean, we weren't even allowed to have our hands open. We couldn't hit somebody with an open. Paul because that was against the rule. There's a picture all the time where I got my fists clenched. Well, that's how we had to keep. That's how we had to keep the blah. Well, think by remember though, promotional photographs of football guys together. Exactly. Right in front of your stern of hula. That's that. Thank god. I came all along a little after that. If you notice most of these pictures are in color. Got a face mask. That's a good thing. You always gotta go a step farther. But that's your right? So Hannaford said, well, wait a minute. If we have to play with a closed fist. Well, let's use it. And because you could and we did you could haul off and and and punch a guy as hard as you as you could if you could keep yourself under control at the same time, don't overextend lose your balance. But there are a lot of times when a guy came in to any of us, and if he was foolish enough to put his arms up in the air, we were going to tickle his liver because we were we were drilling and right in the gut, and you know, what those arms they started to come down. There Deardoff is I guess thicker our cover back with more on overnight.

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