Saint Francis, Napa, California discussed on KNX Afternoon News with Mike Simpson and Chris Sedens
Exactly. And you know, the level of expectation is so high there where here in salami county. Typically, you know, the guy cleaning the toilets is the winemaker the books more than dirty real it. So more real you can still capture things like that over in nap. And and so it's not just got blessed to actually work for Charles crew. It's the oldest winery in Napa. It's call it the old gorge of you know, the wine world over there because Jacob Schramm was our first winemaker in Jacob Barringer was our second winemaker. So we have a little bit of a providence there. Yeah. There's some history, but it's an amazing place, and it's owned by them in Dhabi's. And and it's not the Robert Mondavi side. It's the Peterman Dhabi senior or the Monday the dependent. It depends on which way the winds blow. Very herbs wine buyer at bottle, barn greatest. See again. It's good to see you. Longmen then all busy talking about this new thing that has kept you so busy, and it's starting to come to fruition. We've made it to beta testing now. Which is what the whole thing is. It's a it's an online store combined with flash sales that will be pretty much cold out parts of bottom line. We'll run about forty fifty items at a time online that you can buy through shopping cart and get free shipping on six bottles. Wherever you are is just wine or beer and spirits wine. Right now, beer, and spiritual more problematic in terms of shipping's, especially beer. Spirit to European California that nowhere else. All right. Built you guys have built a whole new. Yeah. We took a whole space. I'm buying wine specifically for online. But some of the stuff is also in the store, but we have to buy in such a way that we can offer the pre shipping. So it has to be really specific good deals, and we're going to be running flash sales where we have large quantities of things that'll sell out like our insider does in a day or two and that'll be it. So so is this actually coming to fruition? The two to three week range now for as long as we don't find too many bugs during the beta testing, it'll be ready to go. And we gotta deal with harvest bear in the middle of this. Which is a busy time. Well, we're all going to we're going to DC next week when we come back. Yeah. Exactly. And we'll talk more about it. Definitely. Dear friend, Jim Morrison's here. He's now working for Charles kernigan. Napa. It is California wine country with Dan Berger and today, we're featuring the former longtime Saint Francis winemaker Tom Mackie who now has Tom Mackie sellers. We're going to taste some of this and talk about it. How we doing on time? I just got five minutes as an eternity. All five for cabernet. So, dan. Again, talk about well, actually, we talked about Saint Francis. But talk about Mackey seller. Let me let me back up a second show, you that cinema valley is really where. Tom had his start because that's where Saint Francis was located in a lot of what was taking place in snow of Allie was really under the radar in the early years. I remember in the early seventies. When Kenwood I opened up and the the name Kenwood didn't mean anything to anybody. And but yet at the at the same time there were a lot of people in snow county who understood where Kenwood was and they knew that can win was was wine area. So Tom, maybe you can explain what what took place in terms of the reputation of cinema valley. It was really people are misunderstanding. They talk about Napa Valley in Selma valley, like they're opposites and cinema valley is a specific small location. It is and the wineries I remember visiting them as a early twenty somethings. And I remember there was Buena Vista there. Was Sebastian Johnny and. About I think about one thousand nine hundred seventy grand cru, I think putting the valley, and and then seventy four I think was saying, gene. And there's much more concentration of wineries in on twenty nine and in Napa. And whereas here you had to go further. There's vineyards are more spread out. It seemed a bit more. I wouldn't say rustic, but I'd say multiple crop. Valley or area than Napa becoming more and more monoculture even back then. Obviously, they don't have. We don't neither of us have anywhere near the wineries that are there now. You'd even mentioned trying to start a winery, and you'll have three or four layers of enemies to go through that. Right now, it's it's the the differences. I think are somewhat less. They're less noticeable. They are as you mentioned there arches. The big differences acre grave how much us and so once that that that everything flows downhill from that. And so there's the. The property expectation there, and you can't blame them if they're focusing on cabernet because that's what they're known for were more multiple varieties here. I think we have more micro climates, and there's no question. There's also a couple of additional things going on with cinema valley because some valley a little bit like Healdsburg in some other areas that were populated primarily by Italian immigrants at the very beginning of this whole process. We see a lot of wines being produced from vineyards that are not entirely homogeneous in terms of the variety. You could go into Healdsburg and by zinfandel, and it's probably thirty percents stuff. That's not zinfandel. But it's fine. It's great wine. So and in those days, you still had access to you that petite Sarai you had some Soviet-bloc going in there. Snow valley was really a wonderful resource and has now become a place where you can actually hang your hat on the image and the quality of the products. Right. Yeah. And well, that's how the back when I started in the early eighties with Joe Martin and Saint Francis back then the in many viticulture, Arizona state, the planting was put his many varieties and see what works and also the old plant in was the eight foot rose, the twelve eight eight foot spacing twelve foot Rosie was called the California's sprawl he'd put it up there either. I have a couple of wires develop on there. And it was a big. You know, you had the jungle. Yeah. There's a jungle you had to cut back on the on the canes before harvesting, and you had the dive in there to get the grapes. And now, I mean, the the pollution of both grape growing and winemaking has just been remarkable over the last forty fifty years. It's just phenomenal. This is a really fine two thousand fifteen cabernet. Yeah. Let's talk about this twenty fifteen as some sonoma's valley. This is a this is a lasted here. We got the cabernet from wild oak ranchers to Saint Francis. It's the vineyard right up against the hill. They're on the property on the east side of the twelve and. Devine's aren't terribly young. I believe there about twelve fourteen years old and the fruits concentrated, but it's balanced. I like the. The character the fruit, the varietal depth, the this and also we did little blending. I think thing about fifteen was that year. The California are the cinema and other places cabinet. Crop is down by in some cases, fifty percents that was an early. Yes. Yes, historically early and the crop is so small that. I was I was getting half of what I contract it. And so I checked out some friends in the area who had other varieties because at that time when I found my sizes was getting ready to harvest any cabernet that was unclaimed was not worth buying. So I said, well, we're planning on the board o or planning on doing some blending. So what better we looked around and checked, and we found a a petite for the stomach vineyard just across from Saint Francis. And then the land Woollard Lynn Woollard vineyard just north of Saint Francis on the other side of the hill up against the ills. And that's where we got our Malbak. And so we did our basically we deal are blending trials and after three or four attempts. We came up with this. And then tried it again, it showed consistency. And so we'll let this is our blends. In the meantime, we put a board that board blend together because we had more cavern and more mailbox. Well, we're million to put a board of land together. So here it is. And it's turned out to be our are serious red wine. Also from the same vendors. Dan, talk about this. Well, I think the fifteen is really a great example of regional characteristics of a little bit of that bay leaf character, which I just adore and cavern a in particular. It doesn't have as much of the siege. Is I often we'll see in some regions. But I think that's part of it is this beautiful blending because it's the whitest so young it's just a baby. But it's gonna be a beautiful wine with a little bit of irradiation. Just put it into Kanter put it in the bottle for a couple of years when I like about cabinets like this is they smell like cabernet, they taste like cabernet. And that's not you can't say that about every cabernet. So even right now. No, you can't. No. But I'm saying this one is still too. It's fabulous to drink. Yeah. It's gorgeous. But I think it's going to be better in a couple of three years, and I'm getting the break sign from producer, Mike the walled. We've gotta check traffic.