Listen: Richard Allie, Arctic Ocean, Arctic discussed on Live From Here with Chris Thile
"Have a world now that the ISIS thinning in the Arctic. When the Arctic add a huge amount of all the time. Nobody in the right mind went up there unless you had an icebreaker docks flat. And now you have a military ship or a ship full of cars being shipped across the Arctic Ocean or a ship full Torah. And as soon as you have people up there does re grow in the winter to some extent, and now you can get a ship trapped and you need a sea ice forecast, and they can do ice for they can actually forecast bird migrations. Now, the birds want to go at a particular time of the year, but they want to go when the weather's right? They wanna ride the wind and not fight it. And so you can actually combine knowledge of biology with knowledge of the weather to tell the wind turbine operator. Hey, there's a huge flock headed your way down for tonight. I have to ask and we just have a couple of minutes left, though. Angela as Richard brings up sea ice melting, the, you know, the specter of climate change hanging over all this how much more difficult does that make your job right now? How much more difficult could it be in the near future? I think that I think that we're seeing extreme weather get worse. And we're seeing we're seeing things that that we haven't seen in the past in terms of how difficult it is is to predict. It's I don't know if it's making forecasting more difficult. I think it's it's just that the events that we're seeing are more extreme and maybe less believable in advance for some people. But and Richard you can you can tell me if I'm wrong. But I think that I think that overall that the physics of the the atmosphere fluid dynamics is not going to change unless something really bad happens. Richard. I'd love your thought on that little less than a minute left. Go ahead right for the physics, right? It works. The climate change is making it harder in the sense that if you get more rain flood gets harder to forecast because it comes faster, but they're doing a great job of it. And they can do this physics works in Israel, and you sound very enthusiastic about the future. Richard fantastically, bright. It's it's if we keep the investment going the payoff is very clear, the public private partnership is very clear it's moving forward. We can do great things. But but it takes a big investment. Which is I think maybe a topic for another day, Richard Allie. He's the Evan Pugh. Professor in the department of geosciences at Penn State university. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you. Real pleasure. Thanks, also Angela Fritz she's atmospheric scientist and deputy weather editor for the Washington Post. Thank you. Angela thanks for having me when we come back from forecasting weather forecasting, volcanoes what we can learn from listening to lava tubes.."