Federal Government, Government, Doug discussed on Outkick the Coverage with Clay Travis
Federal government. Yeah. Thanks for that call Joe and Joe races, a good point. Doug addition article at American thinker, which is which says now remember there are eight hundred thousand workers who are furloughed and not being paid. I think showing up many of them are showing up but not being paid. And I the American thinker article says that if somebody is furloughed for thirty days, the president can then go ahead and do a reduction in force and just get rid of them. Have you read that I haven't seen it? It's interesting thought, you know. But again, you've got to go through right east department, and and and and determine who's necessary. I mean, I did see a story that the IRS is bringing Forty-six thousand people back again that have been furloughed, and I'm trying to get the refunds out in time. I guess for the spring here. But my question, and I was gonna ask you this. Morning is you know, would you go back to work without pay necessarily? I mean, there's one thing to to be going back or being furloughed and not getting paid. But to go back and be working and not getting paid well on on that. That's a very good question. I think the answer to that question would depend on how much you haven't personal settings and your own assessment as to the probability that you'll ultimately be paid. Now. Let's try that. But if I'm if I'm staying at home, I'm likely to get paid anyway. Right. I mean, eventually, I mean, I guess. It depends. I I don't know the specifics of that. But you know, if I had a if I were working for. Some federal agency. And I thought my job was important. I suppose they all too when I was in my misguided youth when I was a budget analysts working for the federal government at the Environmental Protection Agency. I thought my job was. Well, I was a job. I I don't know how important it was. But the difference between a job in a career career. It was. You thought what you were doing was to the benefit? I'm sure, you know. Well way back when I took the job. Just my second job out of college. As a budget analyst in Washington DC is a bureaucrat for the federal government when I took that job. I was a misguided democrat and liberal way back when and. Home. Yeah. Welcome home. But what I found is that probably and I work that job for about a year and a half and from nineteen seventy eight to nineteen seventy nine and what I found is. Oh. About six months into the job. I looked around. And I said. Why are people doing this? Why are these people getting paid? I think that began my journey towards conservatism. I one time, I guess, you're recovering federal employees. Then I suppose you could say, you're always hammering federal employees. I guess you were you did a search. You looked around in all of a sudden realized that you were part of the federal government was part of the problem. Now, Doug, I am part of the solution. There you have it. You know, the other thing too interesting story, you're talking about where if you've been furloughed show many days can you start, you know, maybe eventually making this a permanent thing part of the issue during the Obama years when you saw. Mainly short of sector that was doing. Well, it was the government that is they were hiring in the government universities and colleges doing well during the during the Obama years that was it. And so because of that it may have a an impact on the economy, right? I mean, the the government yesterday came out this is the administration that if the government shutdown goes on much longer it will affect what one percent of the of the quarterly growth or something like that. And maybe a little bit. So that could be an impact here. Yeah. But tuck, you know, you get into this whole Keynesian argument. Right. How how what's the best way to grow and economies it to hire a bunch of federal employees? You don't really produce anything, but paper and problems and regulations at stop economic growth. Yeah. I'm not saying that I'm just saying that we already have that bloated the federal government and show the impact of the economy. It does. I mean does make a difference. Even the administration agrees with that. Right. Well, yeah. I maybe in the short term. It's the flow of cash to those eight hundred thousand employees, right? That aren't really, you know, I, I don't know maybe. But also the government does a lot of business with the private sector. So you know, that those paper pushers keep describing all the time. They gotta have paper. So they buy the paper from some some somewhere in other words as a, but yeah, there's a a trip hate to use the term trickle down effect. The. The core of economic growth. Right. Get to the core of how an economy grows, and it's about the use of resources in if those resources aren't going from taxpayers, or in essence, you know, if you're not borrowing extra money to fund those eight hundred thousand employees says is a little less pressure on the debt, and those eight hundred thousand -ployees, let's say you keep one hundred thousand seven hundred thousand find something else to do which actually might contribute more to economic growth over a shall we say a little bit longer period of time. Then what they're doing as paper pushing regulation pushing employees of the federal government. That's the argument. Doug. All right. We'll be right back as we continue here. One more segment of this hour, talk radio ninety eight point three fifteen ten WNYC. The Tennessee star.