"Hundred responses. They turn those responses into a great episode. They just published it. You can go listen now. One of the stories they included in their show was just so delightful and so- eliminating that we said we have got to run this as one as a planet money so that's what today's episode is a now. I'm just gonna turn the show over to gregory warner. The host of rough translation in in two thousand and ten felipe fernandez was laid off from his i._t. Job at hewlett packard in costa rica fully based costa rican and the layoff was a huge blow. He didn't what he was going to do next someone from his family fully they didn't want me to say who approached him with a potential job. There was a business that needed an i._t. He person which sounded good he was an i._t. Guy he needed work so i was obviously curious. What he said was <hes>. We actually <hes> run. This cam on senior citizens the people who need the i._t. Guy they were in the business of calling people steal their money senior citizens in the u._s._a. He elaborated said we have a script. All you have to do is call and call and call until someone bites. You know this groped ma'am. I have good news for you. You have won a sweepstakes prize of four and a half million dollars. All you have to do due to collect that prize is wire a small deposit for our insurance policy that is forty five hundred dollars and you can send that today by western union. I was doubtful awful. How can you really make money out of that but this scam is pulling in hundreds of deals a week. They call it deals each call it deal the scammers are called agents and this operation like all businesses needs an i._t. Guy philippe as hearing this and he's horrified. I that this is a business seconded. His relatives involved but philippi keeps a poker face. I immediately told him to. This is not something that i can just decide site right there and then <hes> but that i will think about philippi goes home any google's the phone number for the f._b._i. They tell them that's. That's not our jurisdiction. He should call up the u._s. Embassy in costa rica. I called him and they asked me to come in for a meeting which i did and is it like the the movies. Do they meet you you in a in a room with you know the blinds closed. It was just a conference room and and the u._s. embassy in this conference room. He explains his plan dan. He wants to take the job. Collect information that the u._s. authorities might use like the names of these games and their location. Maybe some license plates you as you said. I am about to take this job and i want to stop this stuff from happening. I want you to know what i'm doing so you don't think i'm one of the bad guys so that pretty much astounded us to a year. That joe healy was a u._s. Postal inspector these now retired but in two thousand and ten he was investigating mail fraud specifically telemarketing scams in costa rica and weirdly the hard thing about prosecuting these cases was not finding the bad guys it was finding the victims crooked you so so embarrassed and so ashamed the victims didn't come forward because they felt so ashamed about falling for the con and so for joe healy it's kind of the reverse of the typical investigators problem instead of having the dead body trying to figure out who the bad guy is. He knows the bad guy. He has to track down enough victims to make the arrest. We needed a lot of victims a lot of credible victims and lots of losses without lots of victims and lots of losses. We couldn't bring cases joe. Healy is sitting in this conference room with fully bay the i._t. Guy in his buttoned-up shirt physically little guy. He's five foot four and not not overly muscular. He's trying to explain to this isn't some quick job where you grab some license plate numbers and addresses he would need the names of the victims and philippa is considering doing it heading into the criminals den to get that information himself. We said okay you know. We can't guarantee your safety because we can't be there. You know so as long as you're going into the open is <hes> you know that that would help when felipe day was a kid. He never imagined himself in i._t. He thought he'd be a cop like his grandfather. A police chief in san jose flea bay remembers watching his grandfather on the local news when he solved a big case. I remember him <hes>. <hes> you know in the in the in the police headquarters the way everybody looked at him and i grew up admiring his sense of duty philippe as grandfather used to tell him that seeing something wrong being done and not doing"