David David, Vietnam, South Korea discussed on Forum

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And I think kind of being this kind of exile being this exile position. Having kind of the violence of history behind you are going is going to give you a kind of tilted perspective. And perhaps some sharper and perspective on the world. And maybe, you know, maybe it will also gift you of a kind of gallows humor. For a kind of dark sense of humor of about everything. A cz as I tend, Teo as well. But again, I can't You know, I would hesitate, generalize and say This is all Korean Americans, You know. So let me go next to collar David in Santa Barbara. Hi, David. Hello. Thanks for taking my call. What's on your mind? Yeah. So I've had an interesting experience in that. I grew up as a white male in a predominantly black area and then I worked overseas for extended periods in Southeast Asia. Ah, Africa. And I have to say that my experience With racism on the other side of it is no different. So I just wondered what your comment would be on that Woody by racism on the other side of it. Well being the other in a foreign country, not American. You mean it was like having minor like you felt singled out or other DDE in another country as a white person. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But it again having been brought up in a area where I was fairly well used to that. I'm just curious to. Ah, it's just kind of seems like a ah Part of the human condition, and I don't know if that's if that's true or not. Oh, well, David thinks I mean, I think I definitely think that race based dress cuts across races, though I think it manifests in different forms and experiences. And it isn't exactly that the same thing. Kathy Park on. I don't know if you had any thoughts on David David's comment here. You know, this is something that actually heard quite a lot. You know, When I spent a year in South Korea, there were actually quite a few. There was American military was stationed there and Um, and there are also a lot of white English teachers. Who said the same thing where they felt like they were. They didn't exactly call it reverse racism, But they said, Oh, well, you know, I'm like an outsider or foreigner here, and certainly it is the case that you get. You know when whites are in other countries where they're not the dominant culture. They kind of get a sense of what it's like to be alienated or to be stared at or to feel different in some way. Spot. I would really, really cautioned against, you know, leveling your sense of alienation or saying that your sense of alienation is the same as what black Americans feel or what say, or even how I feel growing up in a white culture, because when we're talking about racism here were taught not talking about the speed feeling like an outsider. In a dominant culture. We're talking about structural racism. Okay, we're talking about. We're talking about the long history of colonialism and American occupation in non white countries. So if we're talking, you know you feeling like an outsider in an African American. Neighborhood. I I'm sure you're already quite well aware of this, but you know, it's it's that's not that's not racism. Racism is the unequal distribution ofthe wealth, education, all kinds of resources. That air hoarded by white Americans, and they're definitely a lot of stark statistics to prove that and I think what's happening. It was cold it with the number of black and brown Americans who are dying. Is a very clear example of that. But I also think that this is also global. You know that that the whites on I'm not talking about Americans, but I think also Europeans have warded. About the wealth through colonization through occupation. So if, say, a white American is in Vietnam, for instance, or Cambodia. I think that's a different I think that's a different case, you know, because of the asymmetry of power. Between Americans and say, Vietnam, Me these and Cambodians and the history of occupation that Americans have had AH, had in Vietnam in Cambodian. It's completely different. And I would also say that you know, a white tourist in HR also is they're considered an outsider. Yes, and their exotic fied, but they're not structurally marginalized in the same way they're not considered inferior. The way that say someone who's black or someone whose color is skin color is darker would be in America or in other countries. Well, Kristina Tweets, this book may be processed things I didn't know I had to the role of friendships that challenge you when no one else will. And the essay and Theresa Kyoung cha. So much, And I do want to ask you about your decision to include a whole essay on Theresa Hak young child. I don't think a lot of people are actually familiar with her. But one of the things that you One of the things that you really also point out is how how unfamiliar they are with the circumstances of her death. And what was behind so that could you just describe briefly? Theresa Hakim child situation and why it was so important for you to dedicate Really? Yeah. Conference of Look at her. There's a hook in charge. Was a poet, an artist who immigrated to San Francisco actually, a TTE the age of when she was 13 or 14 and she was from guard, artist and writer. She went to Berkeley and he was someone who inspired me from when I was you know, Since I was in college, I was introduced her by this other amazing Korean American poet Myung make him and she was someone who was always Is her book. Decay was brown. Groundbreaking for me, and the quicker dictator is ah book that is a memoir, a photo collage poetry. It's a It's an uncapped Garai Zobel genre cross genre book that is about her life but is also book about Korea. Told through the stories of women, revolutionaries and martyrs, and this book has always been very influential to me now, Theresa come. Chaz had also a very short, tragic life. She was raped and murdered. In your city at the age of 31 31 in early eighties, and she was raped and murdered by a security guard. In in the park building, which is also a landmark building in downtown New York in SoHo, and I. Ah, you know, there's been a lot of people haven't heard about her, but a lot of scholars know about her. And there's a lot of bibliography about Theresa venture and, you know, I You know, I was like looking. I was writing a review, and I was mentioning Teresa. How can China decided to let up and see when she Was murdered, and I realize looking it up. But no one told that story about how she died, and that disturbed me. On and what was even more disturbing was when I was looking reading essays, biographies, curatorial notes about her was that people excluded the word break. They know one very few people mentioned that she was also raped. They just said that she died and I was really just kind of disconcerted by this kind of caginess. Why did people Why have like all these historians and scholars and neglected to write about her her her rape and murder and I thought it was a strange kind of silencing. And so I decided to Embark on this..

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