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That should only on b._b. Gbi the raffin and coo to read the nasa. Keep france's more pla tunnel ma let the costumes are trenched up blood buddha canaan and on the mamba yanni number these answers that will not lead we wear your and she threw yemane mealy entity yemane jaw shoulders. I'ma look it up up to chair. The chair set on donor. Surely gordon year end regular celje mcnabb's book about yanni moved who you're getting said muslims together so he says that nationalities constructs as files a cuisines scenes concern. You can't really talk about turkish cuisine or cuisine and that cuisine. There aren't cuisines of nations their cuisines of geographies. The reason why the book is called turkish cookbook is because it's not published in turkey and it's published for turkish readers. It's published for english shooting audiences or readers and that's why it's called the turkish book and if it were to be published. I hear he would call it. Local and traditional recipes not turkish is united says when you you look at a cuisine or whatever it is from a foreign perspective than you call it turkish or or french or whatever it is but as a person living in turkey you don't think to yourself. Let me turkish food today. That's the food. I wanted to say that national well and geographical borders are of course porous. He was telling us earlier that okra came to turkey from central africa which which i was very surprised to learn possibly from slaves during the ottoman empire and i guess i wanted to ask about whether and and how he does the work of trying to figure out where the strains of influence have come from given that the traditions are mostly oral not written down. How do you do that ethnographic figure out what's hittite for example. If there's anything left of the hittites lab <hes> zelic pitchy in game each may lead patriot when koyna sutton tom the ball how much chin yang europe's yanni jalen derogation gillan lima or movies intrusive his initial balmier bomb being used the sinica mummy tunnel majeure majority of the years but tara. I'm jay but goosen mm-hmm domanski for hsueh-liang potisk. Come up salary mubarak. Thank you bill saves. Hillary share kebir all citizens you use them. Don teens h._p. She popped up. Don't or the high any up there seem to show frank kim she recited gabby topic victims young tamil machine and you'll shrink any ski coin was that napa that made the mistake would be truck trump on number two on them to clean up. Let we should jura ah onion any big mall dooms among or mini stomach tiny really can't shaw so we learn from dancer in shame kilom- origin solutions we do strategic sorta lunch machine used to move us and lebanon tobar and burley beer. She stayed grenade can be on my son who kinda plan. W workers listen to you. Cheetah la jeune is mature. He'd been secretly mm-hmm. Stop blah blah blah just during each year of secrecy the kid lounge chairs that don't dominators you wear your honey or the dr by your so walmart. It cut a bed what she named that tommy tommy hamadeh mukunda get them a better gillard choke on number. Should your book on the data comes in an m._d. Yelling kulu in nin- door to share aw honey chargeable they made us take your modulus and dodge new chemistry that she did. He make the donald them one hundred mumia. She said it took me a may. Wanna you may from what advocate yanni only to usual tunnel russian. You're the issue on. Domo toronoto was each surrogate for tumble returnable. Neither kinda. Tom eaters so this is something that they've very strongly focused on and <hes> <hes> <unk> they do research original documents quite carefully and thoroughly to see what names <music> of products vegetables and and <hes> als and what names of dishes exists so he knows that bomb mia didn't exist this in turkish cuisine in balmier means okra in thirteen hundred because it's just not there there is no document whatsoever that includes that word they see it for the first time in seventeen hundreds so they thoroughly research and scan original documents these could be the palace ultimately empires palace documents it could be documents could be any kind of documents and and not only do they try to establish a history of ingredients and materials in the cuisine but they also are trying to correct mistaken can information inaccurate information that sometimes is widespread. I talked a little bit while we were eating the food that he chose for us ignorantly about what it was not knowing and you can translate that damn if there's anything any little stories or little details that he might want to share about the process or the history culture behind them. Shouldn't it be done humane. You mean the c._d. Through day whoa similar rick honey coveney committee's honey optimistic. You're surely be making the american philosophy on their mendel. Neutral jinx and cousins dylan trump was on your make a kayak larva who's really difficult reconduct up on a show and shame luanda luanda off. She called the topical travelers colella daily on taylor the honey mooners mahal get it you know can they then will not let mommy talk shady shady pulled london cleanup gillette the second cd william e the chain them the rejected that lopa lapus easterner shame coach mom sean carnage darshana trenches and they're gonna be bagging. Mish large won't be burgum all mesh australia day all the the mitch ostra day truck guests and they should be better than their who's bomb mea me off auguste slash when adults who himslef burly shaved a cage chemists detroit trump park partly similar partly land chapel kinison their shade that all muscle must guinot dounia junior medina who tell her that she's gonna sugar out. They came up orthodox. Ah yup to yarmuk resilient on tuck ya ledge josh. How do you say this to shake. Who say we let ashir sudesh borakove. Mitch mccoy must be all on what could be the toll goo shoot did the miss yameen seasonable w mark minton turning it will da ah australia llamas shula shlomo australia mulama sir hi shawn massa uh champ gabby op la la certainly old for sheila mahara hush on sold all of that jesus jesus co loop extent sums up your own schnitt jamesy. It was the oliver better or not. We'll meet the cherries kafka screw who can then in all muscle mass may some day uniquely the mclamb check yet washington dennis and cook could the gentleman a man yanni a you picked the eternal though merkel's mcdermot walk the dog do nato all on him zetino being all of a sudden it is buddha ame men had a ios cook in rona cool 'cause learners the bull mcclair us and this is the part part d take him a key part only really only the dole olma iran tiso non near kushtia young the move would not to get your yes tauzin on it. She quehacer terry muthu schaffner's so he he told me what each <hes> thing that we ate <hes> consists of i don't know if i should tell them all one by one one what the general idea is that there are many different versions of each of these recipes depending ending on where you go so you know sometimes they cook it with meat. Sometimes they cook it without meat and for example pull the okra dish that we ate is from some academic research that people at the magazine conducted it did come from <unk> africa to the ottoman empire and then it split into two different recipes one with one without meat and the name is slightly slightly different. Sometimes they use certain types of spices depending on which region nine non is meant and sometimes different spices so you get to have a variety of versions of the same same food changing slightly from region to region or location to location which enriches the whole cuisine. The last thing that i want to ask is sort of a two part question maybe a three part question but while we were taping we were drinking. Turkish coffee and mussa quietly returned his cup over which to me indicates an ivan did the same lee which to me indicates reading the grounds of the coffee two things one one. I wanted to ask about this. Tradition of coffee ground reading. What's interesting about it to me. Is that at least as i've encountered it. It's unlike anything we have in my culture in so far as it seems like people kind of part believe. I don't believe it's like a game nada game but everyone or many many people know how to do it especially women. It seems and then secondly whether shall we do that here. Y'all send a booby two hundred honey tear up he did do they showers junction kennedy mulu made ski does not more than the minimum can shut them car in on should i you miss offi covet their dennis soon a belief you keep a gallon chill sean sean benchers carmen newson and he chew receptacle donor should be vice-captain sheep congregate honey a you watched the corner club kush clear that your child sean and he's made car tariff among among us and data michigan they did go to your your the killary on konami. You showed you really the the hustle. Is it again. Dan shave at us. Welcome laura denison mama dada the ball shnell muslim on that oslo cool cool llamas that the shooting shot at tisch every shane nicholson shot to donor miss berlin two j. louis charge to the united water hunting a hunting call trucks all dossier dossier poon yang appalled the shaky laibach the shaky larry nicola the canal sinful. Nobody would the moose as now has offered to read my coffee and we'll do that. We'll be you you mush miami. You much economic choke discontent chain. We sent you <hes> had great. Financial troubles seems like nowadays. It's getting results. Stuff is getting better. Berlin is some saana this could be goes. Goes named chandler goes the chamois or good you missing manga curriculum spot lamont saw somebody look at you. Evil lie patched you you. You actually push it away. But you haven't destroyed yet. You need to destroy totally popped up my darpa mccomb number certainly them moore the key dot com or get again trump really your ladder <hes> <hes> and you get to see succumb to libya berle over then <hes> to us more the key shake leaguer so when there's this explosion this distraction will happen on. It's a pretty frustrating area. You should be you beware of that. Don't go there. There are many different aways things that could happen there. Stay out of that area russia them although susan it dims ms year in the us in tampa ten <unk> who's look hot <hes> uh will burn the regime toppled good other than the struggle area which is related a to whatever it is that you are trying to resolve the res- is super clear easy happy good the them be shaker besides sound me a number between one and three the bilas get you because you're roy are too ambitious. Keep your feet on the ground while you are. You're setting up. Your girls calls so by the way we're hearing. The evening called appear in this stumble at the window. Do you want to translate wait. What he said about coffee culture. He said about coffee first of all is that's a whole different book you can write about coffee but but as far as reading the copy copies concern right now it's part therapy part gossip parts giving information formation that you don't want to give directly but implying stuff and that was how it was in early as people who worked for rich rich families in istanbul in you know in the old days used to read coffee leaves to explain what they wanted what they wish for to the people that they worked for things that they couldn't say directly. It was used a lot for gossiping purposes for example. Van mussa was a child. It was understood that if somebody visits you at home if they drink the water before coffee that meant that they were hungry hungry so you were supposed to offer food to them if they drag the coffee i but the water afterwards you didn't need to offer food so there are many many different ways that coffee was and is still used in the turkish culture but it's a huge n._j._i._t. I can't complete the explain now okay. I will try to read missile sculpture. Let's see what i can make of this all right all right breath. I should say that. I have zero experience with this well. I mean what i see here. There is a i mean this is sort of like reading cloud. What i see here is a structure and it seems to me that this structure picture is this kind of multifaceted thing that moussa's trying to do with the restaurants and with the book and and all of these kind of unified project. It's got many different many different pieces and it's like open. It's open to the sky. There is much room for it to grow still but it is clearly like the architectural <music> outline is there and the direction in which it's headed is clear beyond that i'm going they ask him is that enough to any thoughts on that. Good job in choke possibly could should make awesome. Thank him so much for his time and for all of this and for being on the show ben tissue yeah i think i hope i had some good contribution..