Mayor Pete, Editorial Board, Pete Footage discussed on The Choice

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Welcome back to the choice from the New York Times opinion section. I'm Katie Kingsbury and I oversee the editorial board last last episode. You heard the board question in South Bend Mayor Pete footage on his time as a management consultant in this episode. You'll hear what we had to say after the mayor's his it if you haven't haven't heard the interview go back and listen to that first joining me today to talk about the mayor's visit proposed changes to the Supreme Court is our justice and legal affairs writer. Jesse Wakeman. I'm I'm Jessie Wiegmann. And I write about the Supreme Court and voting rights and legal issues and democracy reform generally before we turn to the bench. Let's listen to what the board had to say about Mayor Pete's visit. He struck me as the I mean he is a McKinsey Guy. Like that's the sort of briefing you looked at the spreadsheet but it's also the same kind kind of briefing that you would get from a junior intelligence officers looking at the war in Afghanistan and giving you all the metrics to convince you that the winning is possible. And that's what kind of scared me a little bit about. That is because because I've seen intelligence guys like that give briefing and say you know Helmand province is under control because of Xyz Xyz. I've seen the spreadsheets. What's fascinating to me about as Mackenzie experiences? This is like. They gave him a three year tour of all the things that are going wrong like they took him to the monopoly. They took him to the cost cutting health insurer. They took him to have Ghanistan make forty years. So you've got US tour of neoliberalism. He really didn't he comes out of it and he sort of says like I think neoliberalism needs to change and I believe that he understands the problem. But I'm I'm not sure he gets it and a politician. Success is a politician. Requires you to requires you to convince voters that you feel their problems and I do not get the sense. Maybe it's because I'm not from the Midwest but he did not give me the sense that he feels these problems. This board holds pretty much the same positions he does. I mean almost truth a platform. So it's kind of funny that there's this idea that he is in bold enough because it's important we aren't the fight languages about the Mayo. Peak eat thing and the the social media is about like a real generational anger in response to very large forces to financial shaw crisis to student debt to climate. Change to all these things that are very very real and though they may represent themselves on the Internet get in an annoying way to somebody like that. I just think this idea that like. It's not quite as civility message. But I think he has like this this world view of good faith from institutions that Americans see as almost primarily responding in bad faith all the time and then I think ties into question at the beginning about old normal in normal and here he is trying to distinguish himself from the old normal. But what he's talking about really is a return to something that just doesn't exist anymore. Yeah I mean even his tone when he said that the difference really is tone. I think that's not what people want right now. And not even just young people like people who are have been disenfranchised for the longest time and I think to me. That's kind of like walking into this. My Pain of him was like me. And it's kind of like I don't feel excited. Aided by.

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