Jay Warner, Jay Warner Wallace, Nbcuniversal discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show


Brand new book, looks like a great book to me. I don't say that lightly. Person of interest is the book, person of interest by Jay Warner, Wallace. He is known as America's foremost cold case detective. Think about that. America's foremost cold case that kind of a big deal, Jay Warner Wallace, how did you get that title? Because there's a lot of cold case detectives out there. They are working at they're working hard. Who said that you were America's foremost cold case detective? Well, I'm sure they're actually I mean, just to be a big deal in your own mind is sometimes where you start, right? So that's a lot of it. I think partly, it also comes from how many times I appeared on dateline, which is probably just by virtue of the fact that we're right down the road from NBCUniversal here in Los Angeles County. But I think I have been on dateline more than any other cold case detective. And so people start to think, well, yeah, you're the only one. No, there's tons of really good detectives out there who are probably even better than I am. But sometimes you just end up being the one who's the most publicized. Okay, so you're the one you're the best known cold case detective. If that. And you you've turned your attention as a cold case detective. To the Bible to Jesus, and how is this book person of interest, the new book, different from previous books? What do you do in this book? What do you try to do that you didn't do in the other books? Right. Well, I actually think this is no other book. I mean, everyone likes to think that, right? But I think there's actually no other book that does this. So here's what we're doing in this book. I've got another book called cold case Christian where I'm looking at the gospels themselves. Are they reliable eyewitness accounts related to Jesus? That's considering everything inside the crime scene called the New Testament. This book rejects that, says, know what. Well, it's pretend like all those have been destroyed. What would we know about Jesus outside the New Testament? And that's what this kind of book does. And I think what it does is it answers certain skeptical claims. Like, for example, one of the is Jesus just a copycat savior, another recreation of ancient mythologies. Well, I actually look at that as part of the fuse leading up to Jesus. There are a number. It's hundreds of ancient mythologies that have broad general similarities to each other and to Jesus. But they're only broad. They're not specific. So these people, these are the common expectations of people who think about God. And although they shape out differently, I might commonly expect that a Supernatural being will enter into the world in a Supernatural way. So these mythologies often show that God enters in a Supernatural way, but they're all very different in how they enter in. Well, Jesus also enters into in a Supernatural way. It turns out that the 15 common expectations of ancient people groups in thinking about God, they only have about 6 to ten similarities in the ancient myths, no ancient myth has more than ten of these. And some have as few as 6, but there's one person who shows up in history. Who actually embodies all 15 of the ancient expectations of people who believe in myths and it's Jesus of Nazareth. It doesn't make sense that God would meet those expectations given that we're thinking about these as people designed in the image of God who think about God and then he shows up matching our expectations about God. Well, I would go a step further or step backwards and say that because God created us in his image, he created us with those expectations. We long for meaning. We longed for love. We longed to be known. We longed for justice. We longed for truth. We long for all these things. And, you know, you say, where do those longings come from? And why is it that they're met in Jesus? It's a curious thing. And so it is no surprise that all these various religions and mythologies they're kind of echoes of the gospel, even if they happen before the gospel. And that's one of the things you talk about in the book. Yeah, as a matter of fact, what you're talking about too in your book. Look, it turns out right now, if you pull humans on Planet Earth, the vast majority, the vast, only about 7% of humans right now would say they're at atheists or agnostics on the surface of the planet. Everyone else believes in some type of higher power. I even cite studies that have been done now and Ivy League schools by non Christians by non theists who will demonstrate that, yes, it turns out that our default position as children is not atheism. Our default position is some form of theism young kids look at the created world and they infer a designer from what they think they see as design in the world around them. This is now been said by some researchers that this kind of theism is kind of an idea of a higher power is bred in the bone. These are my people who are not themselves believers. So this idea that we only teach our kids to believe in God is actually not true. They have a default position, which is inclined toward believing in a higher power, and these common expectations even of moderns are met in their most robust form in the person of Jesus. It's part of that fuse that's burning up toward the appeal. This is why Paul says on Mars hill. Hey, you folks are really religious. Do you believe in a lot of gods? I'm not here to show you who the real God is. And he's basically revealing to them as C. S. Lewis says your myths come from the minds of your human poets. The Christian myth is from the mind of God grounded in what we call real things. And there's word for myth is not Louis saying it's a lie. It's that this is the story that the narrative about God that actually is true compared to your myths and narratives about God that are untrue. And so that's what Jesus does. He appears, and he meets the expectations of the. Anytime the expected meets the expectations of the, you get a really good result. And so God shows up in a narrow window in which these mythologies are still being worshiped. And that window I show in the book in one chapter is so narrow this cultural fuse opens up a red zone window of opportunity from about 29 BC to about 70 AD and guess who shows up in the middle of that window. That is a wild concept. Can you say more about that about that window? Right. So if you take the overlap of when all the mythologies are being worshiped because they're not all worshiped forever, Osiris worship eventually stopped. But if you can capture a window in which all these mythologies are still actively being worshiped. So the expectations of people groups can be maximized in the person of Jesus. You get a window of several hundred years. If you overlap on that, the window of culture in the Roman Empire, which allows us a 200 year period of peace called the pax romana in which now we have the roads and postal service and tolerance within the empire and a window of opportunity for the message of Jesus to travel. Now the window becomes shorter. Then if you overlap the prophetic window of Daniel saying that the messiah will come between the reconstruction of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple, now you've got another overlap. Now you end up with a window that I kid you not. I show it in the book is between 29 BC and 70 AD. I'm something has the opportunity to happen right there in that window that will change this is crazy stuff folks. I dare you to look at this. I actually came to a similar conclusion not as detailed in my own book. When I realized that Jesus arrives just as Jerusalem has been rebuilt. It's never been more spectacular. Boom, he shows up. He predicts it's going to be wiped out 40 years later. I mean, you think who made that up? God will be right back. And further canyons everywhere..

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