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How Europe is responding to the coronavirus pandemic

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Want to start really by having a look at what is happening in this part of the world and certainly how countries In and around a Middle Europa at handled covid nineteen as pandemic some economic powerhouses. The United States of course the UK have had a bit of a miserable time. You could say but Germany and Switzerland are getting back on their feet and even in the last hour or so here in Zurich. We heard the country's main aviation hub of the national carrier. Swiss have outlined an incredibly aggressive relaunch plan. Of course if we go north to the border in Germany LUFTHANSA'S HOPING TO INC. It's bailout package to do a bit of the same well for more on this. I'm joined here in Zurich Rob Cox regular with us. When is the global editor of Reuters breaking views and on the line from start in south western Germany on a Rosenberg as also the line and she is head of Europe and the UK at the political consultancy Sigme Global? Welcome to both of you rob. I wanted to start. Do you think something is up? Maybe in this country I think also we look to Australia and certainly Germany as well as everyone starting to behave as a bit of a block at a time when everyone is supposed to be yes nice nice role in together are we moving into a period where people are maybe trying to score a few points. Released position themselves That look we are open for business. And we're moving ahead here. We're kind of in this competitive de Lockdown Mode. Where everybody you know? Calm countries like Switzerland which WanNa score high on the the Doing Business World business indicators and things like that and I think they have something like thirteen hundred. Us companies alone. That have offices or something here so everybody is trying to kind of to ease the ease travel. Do it in the right way. But also the same time to showcase that they've done a good job or a decent job of of battling pandemic of ensuring that their citizens have safe that that and doing it in a sort of you know an intelligent way And in some ways opening opening up the borders as a way to show that off now I think they're quite conservative. You saw you saw. The Federal Council was saying yesterday and in other countries. You know there are still this tension between the politicians as it were and the health professionals at still going on. We're still going to see that for quite some time. But there's definitely a sense of like like let's get moving again But the the the big issue though is you can't just apply what the Swiss do or the Austrians due to say London or Dublin or Perez and I think so. The worry is a little bit like we have these fights over tax policy right That you have this sort of race to the bottom in some ways and I think that's it's one has to be quite careful. So if the Swiss open up or the Germans and people say Look Frankfurt's open for business in Syracuse. Open for business. The worry is that these other guys. I don't know or London that engage a well. We better do it quickly. Problem is that there's no one size fits all for battling this pandemic Rosenberg. When you look from your side of the border but maybe across to Austria and Switzerland do you feel that may be an of course? Federal Council Minister over in Vienna yesterday front from Switzerland. Do you feel that the dock nations are starting to to get work in a bit of unison? Work as Mitteleuropa to say that we can together be the the engine that we can point direction. We know that this is a time of of not great central leadership. I'm not sure if there's really a cross border collaboration as as that. I think it's more happening more here. Is that individual states within Germany. I using this as an opportunity to profile themselves when you look at pandemics throughout history typically they benefit smaller entities smaller countries smallest state smaller city states. And exactly the same has happened in this pandemic and Jimmy Away is positioned the way is positioned also because of its highly federalized decentralized system which means you have sixteen individual states that can make their own lockdown and opening up decisions and these decisions currently being made. They're all over the place and I would say there's kind of a rather than we're in this together. I would say there's a little bit of a rivalry at the moment towards who can open up. Fossa who is more concerned with the health of individuals citizens than the others? So it's still pretty much an looking inwards would say Germany. Do you think that some of that also ladder is up though? I mean whether it's whether you're talking about Bio You're talking about no Don Volya that obviously people who are sitting at the Foreign Ministry in Berlin. There were trying to figure out. How do they put this into a concerted message Which they can put across globally? I get the sense. is certainly in Switzerland while the Swiss like to talk about being humble and they don't WanNa talk about having had a good pandemic you do get the sense here that they are trying to. Of course push their message. This is a country that is going to be open for business. If you need to come to Europe And hopefully do need to come to Europe to have a meeting. Then maybe you might consider coming here. I and I'm wondering if Berlin regardless of what it's doing with a federal structure with the states are doing they're trying to have some kind of unified message or no yes. Of course ultimately there's a lot of coordination still trying to be made on on the national level. Am I do think that Germany has certainly benefited from this Kobe crisis? It has turned a crisis into an opportunity and for a variety of reasons and I think Germany ultimately when you look at where Jimmy Stewart's just before the Kobe crisis it wasn't quite a weak economic position that was stagnation that was not enough of investment. Going on into key sectors of the economy that was all these arguments about stepping up fiscal stimulus and spending and constant pushback from the government that wanted to stick to strict fiscal prudence. All of this is different now. The government is saving business left right and center splashing out it's investing and the economy. The Gym Mindset has changed to away from Frisco prudence that was evidenced of course the supporting joint debt with other European nations. And so in a way. Jimmy's kind of taken an advantage from Kobe. In repositioning itself. And I think if you ask me what does Jiminy and the EU stand in one. Two years down the line. I think Germany will clear when I hear on that we just before we went on air we were talking and you just touched on Dublin Dublin. Of course as as essential in Europe which has done very very well at tech. But we're now in a moment right now we're of course. Companies are more mobile than ever. And certainly when you look at some of those players who are who are in Dublin. Of course their headquarters being On on the. Us West Coast yet. There is mobility They move around the going to look of course for the best tax breaks That are out there. Is this also time and again I mean. Certainly you see the power of the money that various spends on go and put your headquarters or least your your regional or European headquarters in Munich. For example do you see this kind of acceleration? Absolutely the ease of doing business index. This is this is going to be part of it. Everyone's going to look at how you did it during this crisis And I think and how quickly you were able to come out of it and I think come. Countries like like Switzerland Like some of the Nordic countries that have have done a pretty good job a relatively good job relative to France or the UK or Spain or Italy are so they're going to have a better pitch to make an a country like Ireland. Which is you know punches. Well above its weight when it comes to global headquarters for I say European headquarters for many of these TECH COMPANIES. The facebooks and people like that that is also

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