Krista Tippett, San Antonio, Dario discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett


I'm KRISTA Tippett up next my unedited conversation with artist philosopher Dario Rope tow. There is a shorter produced version of this wherever you found this podcast. Ning and. Welcome back to winter. Someone someone wrote me today instead it's raining feathers. So welcome to the institute. I'm Liz Armstrong. Curator. Of Contemporary Art, and we are very pleased to be hosting the second live interview with Krista Tippett for her show and broadcast of on being. As. Many of you know Christa was here two months ago when she spoke with Hamilton and what was a fascinating and far-reaching conversation they covered everything from spiritual act of art making to the strange intimacy of museums where people can be alone together. The the this interview, and that one we're presented. In conjunction with the exhibition currently on view. In our target wing simply called sacred, which is a series of installations, the probe, the nature of the sacred within a secular multi-faith society. By, juxtaposing works of art from Multiple Times in places, the sacred exhibition invites visitors to explore historic and contemporary. Expressions of the divine, the spiritual, the essential in the beloved and to ponder the words meaning in their personal lives. I want to thank the MIA's affinity collectors, group contemporary art for their support of this program, and for helping us visits from artists such as Hamilton. Dario. And now let me just briefly introduce each of our guests. KRISTA Tippett Enduro. Christie needs little introduction on this stage. She's a peabody award winning broadcaster and New York Times bestselling author WHO's highly acclaim radio program on being fills a huge void in the public discussion of spirituality and faith. She's not afraid to. to discuss the big animating questions of human life from how do we want to live to what does it mean to be human? She and her guests explore meaning ethics and what is sacred miss the political cultural and technological turmoil that is first century life. Dario fo was houston-based artists who's known for his highly original repurposing of rare and archaic materials. Like a DJ sampling music and he just told me tonight, he was a DJ once Doria spins in shapes such unconventional materials as dinosaur fossils, meteorite remnants, hand bones, and hipbones, and pulverized vinyl from vintage records. He's been called materials poet. I think of him as a passionate alchemist who memorialize the past while finding new meaning in the tangled roots its history. He's a maker of extraordinary objects that are meditations on war, love death, spirituality, and healing. It's going to be really interesting to him talk about these objects without seeing them. But you can imagine and then you will see them So I'm really looking forward to this conversation. Please join me in welcoming Chris step and Dario. Thank you lose. It's great to be back at Minneapolis Institute of Arts. Feel like I'm an old timer now. So I welcome you. So, Dr. you grew up in San Antonio I grew up in Oklahoma. It did not snow in March where we came from. I've really been looking forward to this for several months as way I planned it. Thank you. Very much. So if I ask you a about the spiritual and religious background of your childhood, where would you start to think about what that means? San Antonio is maybe Catholic central. In America So it's It's hard not to be around that in San Antonio. My grandfather was a Baptist minister. I didn't grow up around ten so much but his is influence definitely. was there the Beckham ahead? And he was definitely a passionate passionate man. My mother. Religion in the home was not ever really an issue but as. I searched it out on my own. I'd asked my friends I could come to church. Catholic methodist I probably sample every every church. Afraid I had. And? I continually. Even at that early age was was very, very interested. So my childhood it I would say it was very self directed. maybe always within the background knowing that thing about my grandfather, there was still this mysterious thing that I didn't really understand. So, maybe it was fairly field that to the searching. So. And also it sounds like you know you you were interested in science or football player. You weren't that kid who everybody thought would grow up to be an artist or that you didn't identify zone yeah. No, it was quite a shock. There are two stories that you've told across the years that I I wondered if you would. Tell us and one of them has to do with your mother. One of them has to do with your father about how you became an artist. You talk about your mother working in a Honky Tonk in Texas for while when you were pretty young. And going with her, and it really is the whole experience being there with her taking the people taking the life in that place taking in the music of Patsy cline and others and listening to the Jukebox, and it almost feels like the jukebox was your first art object although you wouldn't have called at that originally. Yes. Credibly, influential on my life definitely leaves a mark. How old were you? Then you're pretty young right? Six, six, seven. and. Their full range of emotional experiences you would imagine honky-tonk. As. A six year old camp next to the jukebox watching plough, it really deliver mark and. And in hindsight, I can look back and realize I think those are truly my first. Artistic Aesthetic experiences. In Dot. Art was actually life in those cases rather than just a symbol of life and what I mean is listening you're having patsy Kline Soundtrack. What I'm actually witnessing in the room as she singing about, it made this one to one connection. Between the pop song or the country song or the art object and life and I think That has left a lasting impression on me which ties into science and. Maybe an unexpected way in that. I, want what I do to be metaphor and have a practical I wanted to do something to in life. And that's per partly my science thinking but also it's very much rooted not in seeing. Music. Say. Soundtrack life but it really it was really predicting even predicting what I was saying in dog it up. And then The other stories later on your father was a biologist correct and. And it was from Nicaragua and you didn't really spend that much time with him going up. But then? You've told the story about sounds like when you were making your early twenties. You're depressed. He, went to stay with him in Miami and we have the Beatles to thank your father and the Beatles to thank for you truly having this epiphany. Nor really I didn't know what an epiphany was until I had one is really. Really. It really wasn't that. Within twenty four hours I still don't know how to explain it it. Truly. Artist and then I was an artist like that and. But I didn't know the first thing about our I. Didn't know what it was crazy. Then as it sounds say today and. It was related to this experience of. What was clearly deep depression Dow when I look back. Visiting him sort of every man has to come to terms with at some point and I I guess I needed to spend time with them..

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