Vince Coleman, Rennie Stennett, Danny Murtaugh discussed on Talkin' Baseball with Marty Lurie
So that was that was a shame, But you know everybody who saw standing there with the pirates really typical pirate of of those days. You know Al Oliver and Richie Hebner and Been startled that he just one tremendous hitter after another seven hits in a nine inning game seven for seven. Yeah, tonight. Any game? Yeah, about that. Any night came off for did it Next trainings and And the Bagley brought standing and Crawford together is really nice. Very Yes, Absolutely. Very nice. Very sweet. But yeah, so that was already standing. He was part of the nine players of the Pirates did this in the early seventies member. They put the all Latin and African American Starting nine out there, and he was one of them. It's the first time that had ever happened in Major league baseball least and this part of baseball. Yeah, I think they asked Danny Murtaugh about it. He goes. What do you mean, like he was trying to do it? These are the guys I want out there, you know. Yeah, that was Rennie Stennett. The other thing is Jayson Stark had a spot on Thursday about the new rules in the lower minor leagues that encourage stealing. And he says, everything is turning into a track meet You like it? Well, yeah, it's it's tough. I mean, I love stealing meal That base dealing is would be coming back in any form. But I mean, the fact is the way the game has always been played. There have been here is whether it's Ty Cobb or Max Carry or Lou Brock or Maury Wills. Where Ricky Henderson where the stolen base was a thing. Vince Coleman, You know you don't have to make it artificial. It'll happen. Without having to Jack Jack up the rules. If I'm a pitcher in the rule in the lower a ball now is that he's only got to pick off moves. You know and get and you know you guys were taken enormous leads. And like you say, it's it's turned into a track meet. I don't know. I mean, uh, that to me that zoo little rough to me. I mean, you can. You can still throw over there a third time, but the writer has to be out. You have to pick him off by this. It's a Bach so I mean, this is this is something going through a pitcher's head. I don't know that he needs to be dealing with. Especially if you're you know, good at the pick off. Move is, you know made it a nart of it. Um, but, you know, speaking of art that there's an artist stolen base, too. I mean, not everybody can do it. I need some of the fastest guys in the world, do you? They still got to figure out you know the situation, the pitcher, the catcher and everything else and to make it too easy. Like when Pablo Sandoval is going to steal 38 bases? I don't know. You know, I'm with you on this. I think the great base stealers still will steal. Bases. Yeah, and you don't you don't need, you know sand of all or Longoria having, you know, 40 stolen bases. You know, you don't need that. All right now, I think we agree. We agree on that, So that's a rule that they think they're going wild with, but I don't think I don't think that swimming in no, and that's all that's all the way down and low way. So that's not even in the Atlantic League, you know? No, we had Steve Trader on yesterday who wrote the fabulous book about the Horace Stoneham and Stone, his father in the 40 years of hard stone, a moaning the Giants. Um Bruce are stone and deserves a very special place. I think in Giants history, I just want to touch on it Briefly. We've got more with that interview next week, but hard stone and did a lot of amazing things. He seems to be known for Candlestick and drinking a lot. But he sure sees bigger touch yours. Yeah, that was his buddy in New York. But he did amazing things to revolutionize the social part of baseball. The organization And he loved the Giants. Yeah, yeah, his dad on the Giants, which is great. And then when Charles Stone him died, Horace was only 32. He takes over the team, but but he he absolutely. Did. You know, Um, I mean, Walter O'Malley was really the driving force, I guess between the two teams coming out here, but But Horace Stoneham had an eye on the West Coast way before that. During the war. The Pacific Coast League had this idea where let's come up with a third league and it's all West Coast and all the owner stopped at it. The I read except for Horace, he goes, You know, there's a lot of potential out there. We gotta think about this. So he was. He was quick to get out in the orchid at a time when he really had to do it. You know, the Polo grounds was falling apart. Their tennis was terrible and So he gets the team out here. But, um, you know, after after Jackie Robinson came in an integrated the game and chorus was the second National League team to bring in black. They brought in Hank Thompson and money urban and this was no small thing. At the time. It's not like everybody fell in line after Jackie at all. It was still a very bold moved to do, and it was just a precursor to Horace. I mean my God when the Giants came out here The team was just full of great blacks and Latin players. It was astounding, really, how many they had and just one great name after another. And so that's that's a That's a real big part of this legacy, too. So he's Hey, he should be finally remembered. I think in the big picture. Yeah, and he opened up the Caribbean scouting. He had this Alex Palm Pez in the New York Black Cubans, and he hired him for the Giants used the first African American Latin player..