Jacqueline Woodson, New York, Hollywood discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts


We're talking with Jacqueline Woodson about this moment in America. She's the author of. Of over thirty books for children and young adults, and she's won numerous awards for her writing her most recent book is read at the bone. Her Picture Book That Day you begin has been at the top of the New York. Times bestseller list for many weeks and Jacqueline. We've still got some more callers. I'd love to go to a couple right away. Andrea is calling from Baltimore. Andrea, you're on the air. Thanks for the call. Thank you tell you I'm like way up in age now I was in New York in the sixties when he had the rioting and stuff like that. And you know it seems like as one conversation with all most of so called lease, and actually align yourself with the system and work with Assistant. Like you know, teach people about races. You know I am not Cathy at all, but these people already know by racism because like. I WanNa know what's the point of keep talking even marching and protesting well she for years, but this is not gonna end and the people trying to do it. Don't even want it to end I want to ask you. Don't you say we should have a different conversation now? They're wrapping a chain. It's up to us to change and by that I. Mean exactly what I mean a country country make sure with him and they should i. don't think that this is ever going to work, and we need to go through our shelves, not only do we. Get from the Caucasian people. We get it from other people in the morning. Look like them. The more they discriminate against them case in point all the people who are able genders. They take all the money so much they don't. They don't. They don't use stores. And they take all their money out. The male flies is one good example here thing. Is You all because we are so? Okay, I'M GONNA I'M GONNA jumping because I think you expressed your question, really really well, and I want to Jacqueline a chance to answer it, but the the thrust of that Jacqueline. What's what's the point of keeping the struggle going? I think that's a really great question. Angie and I'm so glad you. Raised it and I I remember some of the struggles of the sixties especially around Look free lunches in school and and people marching I remember that one of the march was no money, no food, no school, and and basically people saying you know we're going to get our kids out of the system if this doesn't work and I. Think That's what Black folks saying. Now you look at all of the You know. Hollywood black lives rallies with black lives. All of these people creative writers television people You know playwrights actors. All saying you know what if this system doesn't get six, we're leaving it and we are taking our black money with us, and so I think two things are going on right now. I think black folks are saying. We're going to give you a chance to get this right, but we're done. We're out like like we know the power. We have in this country. We know you know what blacks it would look like here and so at and saying you know, show up. Don't just throw up a black. Black lives matter sign on your website, but show me how you're doing the work inside Your Corporation inside your theater inside Hollywood inside your stores, and we do have to make those I completely agree with you. I will walk an extra. You know ten blocks to shop at a black owned store. If that's if that's what's going to make the difference, you know and I think it's twofold. What's happening right now? I think we are doing something that is different than saying. You know what I, but also look at the Montgomery. Bus Boycott. It's like you know what we don't need to read. Your buses go broke. And things changed and I. think that's what we're doing now. We're saying we're going to be out here where we're not. We're not participating in these systems that have historically not worked for us. Are you encouraged as well Jacqueline by the fact that a lot of these demonstrations were seeing all across the country seem to be a very multi racial. I am so encouraged by. I can't say this enough is young people. Young people are done. They are like what wait what? What is this country? You're trying to leave us with you know and this is across all racial lines, and that's what these demonstrations are looking like. They're looking like young. People and Young Black People Young Brown people. Yeah I, mean you know and they are queer and straight, and they are trans and they're saying you know what it stops here, Mike it stops with us like our grandchildren are not gonNa have to have this fight, so so that's very encouraging to me to the young people I say, I'm sorry and young people I say I got your back and I say get out there and do your thing and I support you one hundred percent so I am deeply encouraged by what the people are. Are doing good good I. Mean it's. It's good to hear good news. In this moment of deep deep deep challenge, I wanNA talk to you about how you talk to your own children about these issues, and there's a wonderful bonus at the end of Your Audio Book Harbor Me, which came out in two thousand eighteen. It tells the story about six kids who meet weekly in a room. They dubbed the art room. That's a RTD short for a room to talk, and they talk about their lives everything from deportation to racial profiling. But at the end of the book, you've included a short q. a with your son Jackson I believe he was ten years old at the time. He's twelve now. Is that right? S. So. I WanNa to just play a short piece because it's? It's lovely and I loved listening to this, so here's Jacqueline Woodson talking to.

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