Daniel Megan, Phil Helmet, Phil Hemi discussed on The Grid

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That it just felt like actionable advice. You know, you feel like you can't speak up, you feel like trapped, stuck, start making moves. Start raising. It was just that outlet for them to be able to exercise some power. And it's funny because one twin is like the confident twin and ones like the shy twin. And all of this was coming from the sky twin. And I've actually seen her bluff, and they're good. They're strategic was more than, you know, I've seen a lot of women. And I think it was really just being in that environment where it's confidence building. I love that, though. I love that story about the women's conference because I think you're right. You need a combination of fun and reality. We want to make the world better. We want to hear about the problems. But we also want to just enjoy ourselves and admire women who have done great. And I really like your book. A girl's guide to poker? Because I do feel like it's so much fun and a lot of my work with girls and women in ches. My new book, chess queens, is about that as well. Let's look at the problems that women face, but let's also do it with storytelling and with games and fun. I think that mix is the best way to touch people. In any case, the aggression is such a great lesson. I mean, I also have a theory that I think is relevant to poker power and to women in Americans in general, especially parents. Which is that, in many ways, it is a logical to be risk averse. Because money lost is more painful than money earned, right? The more the less you have of something, the more valuable each dollar is, which is also true on tournament poker. In this true in life, too. If you had a choice between having zero or 2 million, 50% of the time or having 1 million all the time, you always pick the 1 million, right? For logical reasons. And most of the women when teaching on corporate classes are women that are used to making logical decisions. You know, they work for big companies. They have high graduate degrees, and I think they're like they're trying to make optimal decisions. That's right, because it's part of poker power as part of peak 6, which is an investment company, which the bread and butter is of trading options. What is like your earliest memory of poker? I have two. My earliest earliest memory is I was 7 years old. I was in second grade. And my dad from the drugstore from Rite Aid. He bought me this battery operated handheld video poker game. It's almost like the slot machines. You know, we were trying to make like a flash or straight, trying to hold choose which cards to hold and which shards not to. So it's like a video poker game and I brought to school and I played it until the batteries died. And I remember just really liking thinking through it. It wasn't how to play poker, but it was hand rankings. So I am therefore new. 5 spades is like a flush. So that I remember, and then I remember my dad he bought an exercise machine in our TV room and he would always watch poker to it. Watch poker while working out. And I would think this is the most boring thing ever. And I would be like, why are you working out watching poker? And it's funny because even to this day, if I watch poker, I'm doing it more to relax. Thank you. That's more of a calm type thing. And my dad says, it's a thing that most kids is adrenaline going. So he's like, loves it and I just remember growing up with that. And he did have those books, you know, like Daniel Megan's book and Phil helmet's book. And I remember I took the quiz when I was little from Phil Hemi's book, which kind of animal are you? And obviously I'm like 8 years old, so I'm the one that never holds the elephant. I remember all those times with my dad and you know I think I'm very lucky in that a lot of people are in poker from their fathers. And then I think there's this natural question when you start playing, especially in the casino level, as my dad really that good. You know, like did I get good advice? Do you know what you're doing? And you know, my dad, he is completely a recreational player. He never played a tournament before I started playing. But his kind of like recreational game as he plays 5 ten. And he plays in Los Angeles. So, you know, I'm very lucky to have such a smart intelligent person and I think makes smart intelligent poker player, but also in terms of the tag team with our with our strengths and weaknesses. I'm more like firecracker, my dad's more solid, usually. I think speaking to a solidity, I started trying to drag him to tournaments. And he realized that he had no idea what he's doing. So I set him up on an online poker website with free rolls. And the way these free rolls worked is that there are about 7 hours, and I want to say also like 700 players, if you get tenth place, you get 25 cents. If you get first place, you get $2 and 25 cents. And remember that my dad's normal game is a 5 ten. But anyways, so my dad, he starts playing these like crazy. And I'm starting to get text from my mom, like what is your dad doing? I put three in the morning on the computer. Why is he playing this blah blah? And then I start getting text from my dad like, hey, I'm in the top 20. Came at the final table. And over the course of three weeks, my dad had over $4 in that account. Which is really, really difficult to do. And you know, and he said, and he was just, but he's such a student of the game and of life, and he was like, you know, I learned to be like super aggressive, you know? Like I would have never considered going all in with a pair of aids. And then when you're playing a free roll, it's like the nets seen everyone's all in first hand. The last thing that he said about that, too, is he said, it doesn't matter who you are. When you've been playing for 5 hours, when you have this time investment, people care more about their chips than playing a 5 ten. You know, he said that was real intense poker. Yeah, that's a poker player right there. You know, I played with I caxton and Vanessa pelops and charity tournaments. And I'm telling you. They're ready to win the hat. No stop playing any ham there, you know, perfect that size and ranging people. Yes, I do love to see that. That competitive vibe that goes beyond the money because of course when you're teaching young people, you don't play for real money, right? But you have to kind of instill the value that you're trying to win no matter what. That's the only way that it's good training. Otherwise you don't really learn anything. If you can't force yourself to model it, it matters. You have so much experience with coaching from poker power and you also teach a poker class at Santa Monica. Is that right to college? Yeah, so I've been teaching at Santa Monica college. It's a community college. Probably do it again next year. I already talked to semester this year, 2021. An online 6 week overcorrection. So what is your biggest lesson for those listening at home who want to give a little poker lesson to a friend of theirs or maybe their significant other? What are some pitfalls that people encounter when they're trying to teach the basics? You know, I taught a poker bachelor party once. This is a girlfriend and I'm wise idea. They're like, what could our husbands do? You know, that's like a guy's thing, but it's not like going out clubbing. And so they hired me, I taught this poker workshop and then they have like a dealer deal a tournament, right? And so it was kind of like that same question. It's like they kind of casually knew a little bit, but what can they learn that really like shapes them up? And.

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