Kate Lister, CEO, Barbara Corcoran discussed on Lewis and Logan

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Blocks of remote work is trust. Managers simply don't trust their people toe work untethered. They're used to managing by counting butts in seats rather than by results. Not managing baby sitting. Kate Lister is the company's CEO. We talked this week by zoom off course into the biggest hold back since the term telework telecommuting was established in 1973 by Jack Nicklaus has been managers not trusting their employees. I mean, it's basically they're worried. They're sitting at home on the sofa. Bond bonds and not working. All the literature has pointed to the fact that they're actually more productive at home even before the pandemic, But now they've had a chance to do it and the longer they've done it, the more likely they are to support it in the future. People don't necessarily want to work from home all the time if they can help, But they do like being in the office. Isolation and loneliness are very real struggles for a lot of Americans right now, But when the pandemics over well, they want to continue working from home Listers Research says Yes, but not all the time, maybe two or three days a week. On average. There are things that you miss by not being at your desk or in person, including not doing at your desk stuff. There's no substitute for face to face. You know, we're finding that the younger employees are actually having a harder time with this and the older employees. Because they depend on that sort of subtle nurturing that goes on in the office, you know, watching somebody and how they act. One of the things that real estate mogul Barbara Corcoran said she didn't think I'll ever go back to brainstorm a meeting in person again because you get a lot of politics in the room. It changes things, the politics of things and and you can see everyone in a zoom calling. It makes a difference, doesn't it? Yeah. I mean, it's less hierarchical when you see the CEO sitting there in a chair with his grandchild walking past or her grandchild walking past or the dog Slap or whatever mean it just makes us more human and and I hope that something that's going to come out of this is that that we will have more empathy toward one another understand them as whole people. One of the many things that pandemic may have taught us is that it's time to think of work differently. It's time to start giving our families as much priority ISS. We do our jobs office workers have come to realize they don't want to spend an hour and a half in traffic or on a train. It's great for listening to radio our podcast. But it's not so great when it comes to spending time with your kids or your parents or even your pet. I think absolutely. We've known for more than a decade that 80% of people want the ability to work flexibly to work from home to work from anywhere, and in particular, it's not just about flexibility in place its flexibility in time. Laszlo Block, the HR expert says in his opinion. People work better when they're with other people, all those little tiny moments that happened in the office where we bump into each other. Are badly missed because they're essentially, Lister says The best companies work with their employees to find a balance that's productive for both of them, letting people who want to work from home work from home when they can and letting people who want to go into the office do that. She thinks that'll continue beyond the pandemic. I would say that that's the rule. And it's the exception where the company's heir, not saying that and I think they're going to have going to have trouble in the future hiring good people. Because this has always been a jobs high on a job priority list and Now that so many companies are offering it, I think that you're really going to be left out. If it's not part of your offering. If you're one of the millions of office workers who have adapted to a new normal good for you, you're one of the millions who miss going in talk with your boss. She's a.

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