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This was the case for a number of Trump appointees. And he also was known before he had a role in the Trump administration for writing this book called the Sage Brush Rebel that was really in praise of Ronald Reagan, of Ronald Reagan's anti -regulatory sort of agenda. It's, I think, unsurprising to see his name in a sort of a proposal that's aimed at, you know, ending the ability for federal regulations to have any real impact on the environment. Previous reporting from ENA News from Scott Waldman there found that Mandy Gunasekara had written another chapter focused on remaking the EPA, really focused on shrinking its authority both by laying staff, off by cutting budgets, with an especially big focus on sort of cutting environmental programs, like environmental justice programming and public outreach programming. Another name that was in the proposal was Bernard McNamee, who wrote a chapter on the Department of Energy, again, sort of in an attempt to say we should shrink the authority of the Department of Energy. He previously served as an advisor to Ted Cruz, and before that he led this far -right organization called the Texas Public Policy Institute or Texas Public Policy Foundation rather, that really aims to undo environmental regulation and fight renewable energy at the state level. And so we're really seeing, I think, a who's who of the far right in this attempt to, you know, not only sort of be in the next president's ear if they're a Republican, but also, you know, recommend sort of personnel and say, hey, here's who you should stop up with. What role does billionaire Charles Koch play in this project, Darna? So the Heritage Foundation, who again are the far right foundation that sort of convened this group project 2025 has historically had ties, his financial ties to the Koch brothers, who are, of course, billionaires who made their fortune in fossil fuels and related industries. They are, the Heritage Foundation is also a member of the state policy network, which is a sort of coalition of these extreme right wing groups that have targeted regulation, especially climate focused regulation in states for many years. And I I think, think, you know, I would just say, I guess it's no surprise that an organization with ties to, you you know, to people who have made such a great fortune in the industries that are, that must must be regulated in order to take on the climate crisis are, you know, have historically been tied to a group that is trying to push that agenda to the presidential level. As we begin to wrap up, I wanted to ask David Wallace Wells to respond to what Dorna is doing right now and also talk about what needs exactly to done. be I mean, we're speaking today, the day after the Supreme Court has just okayed, cleared the way for construction of the contested Mountain pipeline Valley to resume, lifting a halt on a section of the project that had been issued by a lower court earlier this month after a challenge by environmental groups. Yeah, I think we're in a situation as a country now where we're pursuing what used to be called the an above all of energy strategy. And that's pretty catastrophic for our climate goals, which means in general, I would say at this point, the Republican Party across the country is mostly standing down in resistance to renewable energy. The Project 2025 memo is really concerning, but when I across look the political landscape, I see there was basically no campaigning against the IRA in midterm the elections anywhere and in Texas, where there was an effort to kneecap renewable power a few months ago. Ultimately, that failed because even conservative Republicans in Texas understood that doing so would raise energy bills for consumers there. Nevertheless, we're also moving forward with a lot of new fossil fuel that's infrastructure and the path we're following. We're kind of doing both at once. So in the big picture, I think what we need to do is find a way to accelerate the good stuff and draw down the bad stuff. Functionally, for me, what that means is finding a way to ease the rollout of renewable power, build more transmission lines so that we can expand our grid and accommodate much more renewable electricity over few the next years without, at the same time, giving benefits to new infrastructure on the dirty side. And unfortunately, to this point, most of the so -called permitting reform proposals that we've heard have been balanced in precisely that way. They do make some accommodation or allow for some acceleration of renewable buildout, but they also allow lot for a more dirty energy construction. And we just can't have that if we are hoping to hit the targets that not are set just by the scientific community, but the somewhat less ambitious ones that have been embraced by the Biden administration. And finally, David Wallace -Wells. I mean, the phraseology of the U .N. Secretary General Guterres talking about global boiling, taking on the fossil fuel industry, it seems to fly in the face of what's happening with the U .N. climate summit, the one that's coming up in UAE. In January, the UAE confirmed that Sultan al -Jubeir had been appointed president of COP28. He is the CEO of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company, the biggest oil producer in the United Arab Emirates, the 12th largest in world's largest oil producer. Just producer of gas. So when we point our around finger the world and shake our hand at other people's bad action, we should remind ourselves how poorly we're doing. But in general, Guterres has taken a really unusual turn as secretary general. He has made himself a climate -forward, climate -first, rhetorical world leader, operating somewhat independently from the other structures of the UN, including the COP process. He's made himself the rhetorical leader on climate anywhere in the world and it actually is a kind of a shaming contrast to compare the language that he uses language to the that leaders like Joe Biden hear, but leaders all around the world have used, much more muted rhetoric. public. And I think while some of his language is a little overheated, at least for my taste, I do think it's It's quite striking how few other figures of political prominence anywhere around

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