At in. Two thousand nineteen at hyper growth boston. 'cause we talk about everything about free so and how you train. How the film was made why he lives in las vegas of all places and his foundation that he said up called the handled foundation which a lot of the work that he does goes to the proceeds go to ronald foundations and so many things that he does including his own personal social media habits. All right let me know what you thought of this episode. Alex donald mind-blowing episode so fortunate to spend time with him don't forget six only rating shouted out to our donald piece. We're in boston at the wang theater. Second nightclub it's got this music blasting if you don't hear that and we're getting ready it's eight. Am yeah that's the thing that makes a real barely had breakfast. And there's like club music and tons of people with glow sticks very high energy. Do you have breakfast. Yeah yeah yeah. I always do breakfast most important today. Really yeah scott actually Yeah it totally depends on where am doing. I had breakfast. But i've been up since four thirty jet lag site china's some sort of on an unusual program. It's crazy so you're coming back from a tour of promoting your movie free so low right in china. What were you doing. Just in beijing doing crafts for two days. It was just Yeah it was just the film premiere and tons of I don't really know. Honestly that's kind of the the the beauty. The interest of traveling. Asia's you just never have any idea what's happening. Just people telling me what to do with no real sense of why. I'm doing it or who's asking what's happening continuing that here. Yeah exactly exactly. This is definitely more surreal scene than than anything in beijing. That is funny. It's crazy you're going to be speaking today. At hyper growth young. What are you going to be speaking about today. I'm going to be talking a bit about my whole journey reselling gap. He's probably fair to assume that a lot of people here have seen the film but go a little bit deeper into some of the backstory and just the process. You know the things that the film doesn't cover well when you watch this film. What's the feeling you've got like the rest of us. No definitely not. When i watched the film. It's like flipping through a scrapbook like it helps me remember all the actual things that happen. You know. it's obviously i mean. The film is is incredible but the mostly for me. It just reminds me of all things because the film is ninety minutes long and it was shot over two years. I mean there's a lot a lot of life happened in that time you see you on the the film were there are really air is in the film. I mean you know it's all it's all. True documentary is all very thin. So there's nothing wrong with it but it's more adjoussou omissions. But not like not is just edited. I mean it's just ninety minutes instead of you know. I mean the the final climb in the film is twenty minutes long and it's incredible as beautifully shot as you know i i love washing it but actual climate four hours and i remember the whole thing. So we'll let you do want to do the movie like such a solo part of the reason that the movie was just because it it made it easier to work on the project. Sorta counter-intuitively bend the thing is. There's a lot of work involved in working on that. A lot of just toil carrying rope coiling arrives managing and so by doing a film and then my friends were busy. Getting paid to help me on my project so excuse for yeah and it's kind of a cover also in a way because if i was up there repelling down the same section of vocab over and over working on it anybody's he'd be like oh he's obviously parents sola it but because we were filming was actually more like oh. We're working on his nat. Go project if you be like oh cool. They're like. Oh maybe the shooting. A history of the south i wall which is the section of the wall i was on or it's like you know. Or maybe they're shooting because occasionally go. We're shooting from national parks. Recapping for najia sort of faye. You know true but not statistically yeah but so it gave a lot of flexibility it just kind of made sense. The people like the people on the cast actually filming where the actor friends of yours you. Yeah i've ever on the crew. Were close friends of mine. That i've climbed with over the years that i've been friends with for many years. Yeah i mean like jimmy chan the co-director we've traveled together twelve years or something so yeah i think so. I think i've known him since. You don't seven piney. We're both on the north face team on expeditions. All over like we've gone already together. We spent a lot of time together. Yeah how many years have you been professionally climbing since two thousand seven okay. That's quite a journey and so all of them are real primers. Yeah so a couple of the couple of the crew members were sort of verite film maker. So jimmy's wife tribe mazzarelli early in the director of the film co-director so she brought more of the verite background to it with She's not a climber but she's a gifted filmmaker and then she brought her team members people that she'd worked with in the past who were a little bit more focused on on the baroness but yeah basically anything is. After two years of all together you wind up being pretty good friends with friends out of me and no one me. Two years is a long time somebody that they'd be married and you got married during no no no number number okay. So just Seem yeah we what we moved in. After the first week or some- executant cars. Just move into replace. Come to stay. But that actually happened during the filming. Yeah so i met my girlfriend after we'd already started filming free solo. Yeah so i'm yes. Our entire relationship plays out you know. Yeah it's crazy yes. Yeah so what. Start all this. I just pursued declining. Yeah i mean. I've just always left on. I find since. I was ten years old. So it's like my entire life is just invested into this one pursue. Yeah yeah and then. If you're going to do what you wanna do it well. You want to be as good as you can. And so you know have put a lot of effort and over the years and what do you how do you think about that. You're next thing now. They used that you've done this. I don't know. I mean honestly. That's the hardest thing every single you know cuny do with audiences any event. I do errands like what's that sort of. I don't know it's hard think that way. Do you think like like from the outside looking at what you've done. Seems like his always pursuit of what's next. What's next how to get better to refine well. The thing is how to get better. No so i am always a how do you get better. What is the next thing. I want to work on the thing. Is that audiences when ask you. What's next they're like when he working free solar to and the reality is that there's never going to be a free solitu- there no other objectives like that in the world. There's you know it's a unique and it was a beautiful confluence of the perfect objective with the right crew. The right you know the right motivation me like it. All came together to make this incredible experience. And you know that's never going to happen again and so you hate to disappoint people with with the light while this is a unique one off. Yeah yeah watching over you know but the thing is i'm still trying to get better climbing on things. I have tons of personal projects. But they're just not ever going to be academy award winning films. They're not interesting in that way. And so I don't know it's hard to be like well. You know the rest of my life will just be back to the the quiet toil way. Yeah exactly exactly and do you have that. You consider like that was a perfect line. I mean free saw. You're pretty close to as good as it gets for me. Two years work for a big climates. Yeah and it went as well as a good hard was. It seemed like almost impossible. Even the people actually filming. It seemed like doing when you were doing climb..