Benjamin Netanyahu, Laura Seligman, Nancy discussed on 1A
Out and hamas has been in the position now of being able to say that it it is defending the palestinian cause while a palestinian authority is standing by relatively silently the palestinian authority that was willing to negotiate with the israelis is now ineffectual in defending the capital in defending alaska mosque and so They have been arguably weakened politically by by. What's happened. And i think the delay the elections was was enough to fuel. This idea that a week palestinian authority was afraid of a rising hamas. Paul pointed out the events of these last few days allowing hamas to demonstrate It's defensive drew. Some has further weaken the palestinian authority. And how much mart support does hamas have on the ground. So it's it's it's hard to say. Think arguably has more than the palestinian authority. That the reason i hesitate is you know hamas on one hand is in charge of governance in gaza and these strikes now are leading to Civilian casualties and that was sort of a known. By launching these strikes they may made residents. They're susceptible but at the same time they are presenting themselves as advocates for the palestinian cause. And so because of the feelings on the ground right now one could argue that they have growing influence there also up against the palestinian authority that is seen as corrupt and ineffectual. And so there's certainly an opportunity for hamas influence and power and perceived to grow in a way that wasn't true arguably just a few weeks ago. Nc just mentioned elections in the palestinian authority. Paul to what extent has israel's own political instability been a contributing factor to what we've seen this week. I think the big effects in terms of these brady politics has been the the gradual and quite stock over time shift to the right in the middle of the Ground in israel has been competing hollered out. The left has been very much sidelined to the very very left. And so israel. I mean that was the time. Benjamin netanyahu was considered to be a very conservative politician in his now. He's almost centuries. There are so many more people to the right. So what we've seen is a very very hard line. Approach towards the palestinian is many many people that be. The fooled ought to be government or have influenced type of forming a government. Basically wanted to take over the whole west. They have absolutely no time whatsoever for the two state solution. So you seen. Israeli politics moved to the right. The palestinian authority is just completely unable to do anything really. They don't have the power they don't have clout. They don't even have in many ways. Support the people anymore and when we talk about the administration talking to the palestinians. They're talking to the palestinians have absolutely no control. What's going on in gaza and the biden administration isn't talking to amass. So you're kind of talking to the people. The car actually do anything about what's going on in gaza and you know what is instead of late is that there are channels of communication and israel has done more negotiating over the years quietly with and then dominate the palestinians because they know how to resolve these conflicts because they're very important to both sides to be resolved so i think the difficult things going to be within israel that israel arab israeli-arab jewish israeli kind of conflict was going to be really tough to resolve. This is real israeli administration because they're seen as being so thoughts right in the united states israeli arab. Nancy when we think about that conflict that paul was talking about it. Sounds like it's almost too soon to even be talking about a resolution when we're hearing what daniele saying about what's happening on the streets. Well the biden administration has said as much that that this is not the time for Talking about this fundamental issue which is negotiations between the two sides. I should note that in the run up to this. I think there was a perception that by doing things like reach not to regional partners by doing policies around this sort of central issue of the relationship between the two sides that these kinds of conflicts could be avoided. And i think what we've seen this week that that is not the case that these issues have to be dealt with Head on and so While the us says that this is not the right opportunity. I think part of it is because of the situation on the ground. I think also part of it is because the us is not in a position to lead them in the way that they did before. I mean to give you a sense this week. The united states said that it was deploying a diplomat to be a part of the talks on on wednesday. And we haven't even heard whether whether that diplomat has arrived and what what is happening and so How you reach a settlement. When the sort of normal broker the united states is not in the position do it and the hostilities. Highs they are i think is very. It's very hard to see at the moment and yet is essential. I think this week has taught us in terms of resolving this in any sort of enduring way that's cnc yousef national security correspondent with the wall street journal. Paul dan hard. The washington bureau chief for the bbc is also with us along with laura seligman a pentagon reporter for politico and you Ian justice was tweeting. If the white house wanted israel to stop the attacks they could threaten to cut the three point. Eight billion dollars in foreign military aid. We give them every year. How can you talk about pressure and not mentioned that laura. Is there any discussion around that. Well i think. I think certainly there's been a lot of pressure. In in recent years around particularly the the the arab neighbors the region has really been a lot of tensions. That are so just important to note that right now sort of what's going on. Is that egypt. And other arab neighbors have been pressuring both sides to de-escalate so egypt qatar and the united nations are leading these truths efforts and there have been reports that an egyptian delegation is in tel aviv. For talks with israel officials as part of these efforts to negotiate for a ceasefire Egypt often serves as a mediator between israel and hamas and it's been a key player ending these past rounds of fighting however there there has been really no progress made in in any kind of ceasefire like like nancy side. It's going to be difficult to resolve this conflict. it's also another interesting piece of his. Iran's role obviously there have been rising tensions with the us and other nations in recent years. Iran has been supplying weapons and weapons designs to hamas which has been using these more advanced rockets. This week that we've seen to strike further into israel Recently is egypt has tried to crack down on this illicit smuggling of these weapons to gaza by iran but hamas has been developing its own production schedules..