America, President Trump, Special Assistant discussed on Joe Pags


To have this guy. He's a special assistant to the president for legislative affairs names Jurong Smith drawn Horia. Hi, how are you? I'm doing great. I'm doing just great. We talked about this for a second before we hit the air. How cold is it just to be sitting in the White House on the phone? I mean, that's like part of what you do. Now, you go to the White House every day. I mean, come on. Yes. And honestly over the two years of Ben here. It never gets old. It's a blessing to be in the people's house on doing the people's work. So it really does feel like that. Because when you walk in it doesn't it's an elaborate place and yet it's all decorated, but you walk in. And you get this feeling that this is a house that you're welcome in you what I mean. Descent make sense. It's like it's like a dream sometimes because you grow up seeing this place on TV and then to walk into it every day. It does have a magical president it. It is the first step is what we want to talk about paternity zones as well. When the first step active started and was signed. We did a bunch on it here on the program. This is a move that should unite Americans this should galvanize us this should make America see that. Some wrongs have been done in many of them oddly in the Clinton era where there was unfair punishment. There was none equal sort of Justice being gold out go to certain communities. I mean, if you had powdered cocaine, you got one punishment, if you had crack cocaine you got much worse punishment, and generally speaking that was on racial lines. So the first step act makes lot of sense because this actually says let's reform which wrong, that's the first part right better to act. I part think is also looking at criminal Justice reform in a different light in the early nineties late eighties. We went into this gift get tough policy and get tough policy. We we we threw the baby out with Tabatha water. We put a one-size-fits-all approach towards criminal Justice reform, and so certain. Vigils got locked up for twenty thirty or forty years for first time a census, right when we could have had a smarter way of doing their sentece. So the first step back is taking a different approach that we call smart on crime and looking at individuals individual background and their risk of reset advising and figuring out how we can reduce recidivism risk interesting. Is that the idea is when you go to prison or go to jail, you're in the system somehow we're supposed to help you reform. We're supposed to rehabilitate you because the vast majority of people aren't lifers aren't going to be sentenced to death. They're going to get out. And once they get out if they don't have the tools to survive they're going right back in. That's exactly right in this state prisons of set of rates average at around sixty percent. So we know where our next group of criminals are coming from as people were coming straight from the prisons. And so we have to do a better job when we take people into incarceration. Figuring out how we can help them be better. The citizens on the way out there. Indeed, retarding civil society. I know that it's a it's a Gironde Smith special assistant to the president for legislative affairs talking about the first step back. We'll talk about opportunities owns as well, it sort of two fold if not even multi-layered, but the first thing is let's stop sentencing people for nonviolent crimes to two thirty years because sense of the second another part of that also is I think three strikes in your life in prison on nonviolent. Offenses doesn't make any sense. But also our prisoners being taught anything any life skills whatsoever. How to manage a checkbook had a hang drywall. I mean, the learning anything other than you know, three three meals a day, Kat, free, honest answer that question, it depends on the prison home. However, what the first step back. We're putting standards.

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