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"The bizarre side of American politics, author, Richard beano. Thank you for coming back onto overnight America, you're welcome to do it. I like that. You can look at some of the many candidates that have thrown their hats into the next presidential election and go back and look at some of the other candidates that may draw some parallels. One of the interesting thing is we're seeing a wide variety of backgrounds of people some are finding themselves mayors of somewhat smaller towns in P Buddha, jed, but we're also finding in the past. It's kind of an unlikely path to the White House when you talk about those who ran from the house, but we have a great example here in Saint Louis with congressman Dick Gephardt. Oh, absolutely Gephardt's really kind of a fascinating example. He ran for president really in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight he's began candidacy in all of nineteen eighty seven and he was actually a relatively obscure member of the house with. Not, for example, a speaker of the house. He wasn't a member of the leadership. But when he ran that time he took he took the issues Pacific trade. He said, we can't afford more trade negotiations where America American farmers are always losers, for example, in his Logan that year was at year fight to when he was trying to say, essentially kind of a pipe Listrik message of the people vs, a powerful very similar to that talked about trade issues, you talked issues, and he's the result of his campaigning. He actually came in second place in Iowa that year. I'm sorry, actually won the Iowa caucuses that year and became and then came in second place in New Hampshire. And he actually had support that year. Some unions, for example, the United Auto Workers that year endorsed him and remember this year, you had a lot of that year you have bible candidates, you had just he Jackson, you had Paul Simon. The Senator from Illinois. The caucus the governor of Massachusetts, you had Gary Hart, the Senator from Colorado. So all those people plus you know, this one this one, lone house member and the house member does relatively well in that campaign. And then after the campaign, he actually uses it to actually use it to as again, way to become majority leader. And then he becomes he becomes majority leader and eventually minority leader again, then it becomes, you know, then he runs for president again in two thousand four and when he run in two thousand four the expectations this time around, what were you have to win, Iowa when you weigh in nineteen eighty eight the expectations were just you have to centrally become in third fourth third or fourth because, you know, you're not a major cannon necessarily this time around. He's a major candidate and he him and, and Howard Dean, actually it worked for him in nineteen ninety eight candidacy, it becomes mutually assured destruction, because I always a state where they tend to like, very polite type candidates. So as a result of them going, which other John, John Kerry and John Edwards? The other two major. I Wesley Clark not in the race at that time. I mean would not compete nyah one Joe Lieberman pulled out of Iowa. So John Kerry and John Edwards. Moved up to the top. They kept coming in fourth place and then since he didn't meet expectations. He immediately drops out of the race. But he's, he's a perfect example of somebody who you know, kinda came from nowhere uses house seat and found two thousand issue in terms of trade and economic populism. And he was able to actually win the Iowa caucuses and become a viable candidate is the author of American politics on the rocks. The bizarre sight of American politics, richer, beano here on overnight, America. Of course, a big name here. Dick Gephardt in Saint Louis region. And it seems like there are so many backgrounds of where the candidates are coming from and the democrat party in the next upcoming presidential election. I was just trying to write down as many as I could figure out. And I mean, even when it comes to mayors, it's kind of unlikely to find a major presidential candidate being a mayor of small city in this case, you know, we, we've seen the large ones from New York City. Eighty they'll all be in the hunt. Former New York City, mayor's things like that. But then you have the mayor of south bend, Indiana. That just goes onto a FOX townhall and gets a standing ovation in key. Gets a lot of people talking about them a lot different than the politician down in Texas who you know, you see the, the media grab onto certain personalities like better Rourke. But, you know, the south bend one he seems to have some lasting power. Oh, it's fascinating. This is remember this is the mayor of a city of a hundred and two thousand people hundred two thousand people. Now, that being said he has a lot of certainly he has an Ivy league pedigree. You know, he has military experience, but the fact that he's going for this, I think most people would say, the more logical path for him would be to run for governor of Indiana. And then he become governor of Indiana, you serve a term or two, then you went for president. But I think he's seeing, I think what he's what would think he's looking at specifically is he says, you know, politics is about timing rock, Obama. For example, gets elected to the United States Senate in two thousand four. He wasn't even the front runner to win the nomination. But then the front runner win the nomination scandal involving his divorce. Becomes a huge issue. So Bentley Brock Obama gets that nomination, then he's been John Kerry allows them to says, you know, why don't you speak at the democratic convention in Boston. He blows everybody away. And then after that he says, you know, let me say unequivocally that I'm not going to run for president, my only responsibilities to work for the people doing away. But then folks, I carry read and Chuck Schumer come to him. And they say you know, I'm really afraid of Hillary Clinton, get the nomination because there's so much animosity naturally toward her in the general election. When you run. Now the logical thing for a cat for Brock Obama to say would have been what any other presidential candidate would have said was said, you know, I've just got to the Senate. Let me let me serve my time, and then I run, but Brock bomb was convinced at the time that I don't it's probably the worst possible scenario would be to become a career politician. Chris Dodd or Joe Biden who are running against the Magyar never gained any traction, because people saw the miss being essentially born in Washington rock Obama says, you know what this is my time, I'm going to run, and he won or, you know, then Donald Trump figures later. He didn't. You know, he didn't try to run for mayor of New York City, and trying to run for governor York he ran for president and it was his time that year because you had a message resonated with Republican voters and see what the what the what's what mayor Buddha is looking at right now. He's saying right now, you know, people are looking for a younger face there. Look, there's a lot of looking for had military experience. I'm going to be the first major pro democratic democratic candidate who is gay back to potentially help me in a democratic in the democratic primary. He's saying, I'm from I'm from, from the I'm from the midwest, and he's saying, you know, this is my time, and if I don't make it, you know. Well, that's okay. I can, then I can run for governor of Indiana two years down the road, you know. And he saying, why not just want to go forward? So he's going for it. It's bashing there's another mayor actually, Wayne Mason, who's got who's the mayor of Miramar, Florida. I went to the city bigger than it bigger, which is the city actually with higher population than than the mayor stopping Indiana. But he's gotten virtually no traction, so far infrared, so there and then, of course you Bill de Blasio with his. Because this is the mayor the largest city of eight million people have been in the entire country, and he's feeling right now to register one percent in national polls. I wanna talk more about some of the other things that have been happening in American politics, as of late with author, Richard beano books, American politics on the rocks. Always a pleasure to have him on overnight America will continue next on Campbell."