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Forty five on on the shoulder and narrow at the hip and everybody knew you didn't give no lip the big jobs big man Hey there folks were talking big bad John is a mere rack Alvin hi zmir AKC is on the line John can't wait are you there yes Eric help okay even a lot of articles as usual let's talk about the first one first love your enemies doesn't mean bless your heart or even thank you Sir may I have another you're referring to the president's comments at the national prayer breakfast and of course Arthur Brooks spoke national prayer breakfast talk about loving one's enemies so what do you have to say your article in the press conference afterwards some Christian commentators some some good people people I respect questioned trump taking the tone he did at both the prayer breakfast and at the press conference said they thought well he had just won the impeachment vote he just had a very successful state of the union this might have been the time to reach out and and and embraces his any means and and show love for his enemies such as Brooks was talking about Nancy Pelosi announced that the prayer breakfast that she prays fervently for Donald Trump all the time because he's so lost in his path has struck his straight so far which of course reminds me of my girlfriend said she once went to this Bible study and the entire Bible study was all we have to pray for Jennifer because she is so cheating on her husband and it's happening at this motel and they needed this fall the whole Bible study became a gossip thing to talk about how we have to pray for her because fill in all the lurid got to be details here well look it is of course not just possible to pray for one's enemies but we're commanded to pray for our enemies but you're suggesting in the present was suggesting that Nancy Pelosi was was disingenuous but let's go blind that little keep going yeah yeah but the question is is it is it wrong for us to want our political enemies to fail to want them to be thrown out of public office for if they commit a crime for those to be exposed for their plans to be defeated and for them to have to return to private life to practicing law for teaching at some college or something where they can't do any harm that's what it seems to me people were implying that for trump to be angry one day after a three year effort to overturn a democratic election by any means any the Getty they could pick up the through the wall to see if it would stick when the last piece of spaghetti sealed off the wall should he immediately and say okay all forgiven you know with now well forward with yeah I'm glad you wrote this because this is something if if I had your energy in abilities I would have written a P. a similar piece because I I was at I was in DC for the prayer breakfast I was not in the room but with my wife and I watched it on TV and I have to say I I had a very different take than most of the Christian media I fervently believe that we are commanded to love our enemies there's no doubt about it but then the question becomes what does that mean and what I love about trump's response is that and this is one thing you have to give this president credit for there's an honesty and transparency he is not afraid to appear dumb or ignorant he just says what he says and what he did when he said what he said is he revealed what most people haven't misunderstanding about most people think to love one's enemies means to like one's enemies that Natalie could be well and nothing could be farther from the truth when I pray for my enemies okay when I pray for somebody who is ideologically opposed to me I am not praying that they succeed I'm praying that they repent that god show them the truth the fact of the matter is that that that's what it means to believe in truth right so so that if somebody is on the side of slavery Wilberforce really her role Eckley did not do moral grandstanding he basically said we are all guilty we notice here very humble tone and that's what persuaded his enemies some of them to change their position but he fought like crazy for the slaves but he that he never said I like the people who are making a lot of money off of slavery you're not supposed to like them now when the Bible says to love your enemies it means to treat them the way you would want to be treated if you were on the other side of it so it really has nothing to do with mushy feelings and when the president said I find it hard to like these people I was cheering I was thinking he he is he's saying what everybody's thinking because most people who are not in the in this in this bubble of the Christian Bible of the Christian media bubble they themselves are wanting what the heck does it mean to love your enemies I'm supposed to like the people who killed my mother is that what you're telling me and somehow right this gives us an honest conversation I was supposed to send a Harry and David's baskets to the **** war criminals at Nuremberg chrisley exactly exactly what but I'm what I'm saying is that what what interests me here is that trump is not afraid to say what he's thinking and he says I mean you hear something like Arthur books is an intellectual get up there and and and and say something in terms of me the thinking I don't get it you're you're telling me I'm supposed to like these people who have tried to crucify me for three years I don't get it but then he says I'm sorry I try it's not easy or says something like that I thought to myself he's being honest in and I thought he wasn't given enough credit for that because he understands that somehow he she should be doing better but he was kind of asking a question like what am I supposed to like them and I wish that I could you know have had an opportunity to respond to him as you do here and say this is the problem is that people don't know what it means to love we've defined love is a feeling and it's not about a feeling it's a completely different thing I I analyze this at my article stream dot org in light CS Lewis is for life he he break through a lot of into four different meanings of the word okay first at the lowest level you love shrimp tacos you may be a back rub in a hot bath okay I don't think that is what we mean by low price meant by love your enemies now then there's the romantic love that seeks a life long union in marriage again I don't think that Christ called us to love our enemies in that sense then there's the noble love a friendship where you respond to what do uniquely lovable in a particular person it would be insane for god for god for Jesus to tell us all to love everyone as if they were best friends away what is left what is the sense of love that remains that does make sense that god is calling us to do well it is the love that Christ direct AT human being that we're supposed to direct you to everyone including our enemies not especially our enemies just our enemies in different we along with everybody else in the whole human race so what does it mean to love in that sense and I I break that out it to four steps okay now before you say that is why I say yeah there for Greek words for love in the New Testament and this is where where the confusion comes in eros is this romantic love love between a husband wife whatever it store gay is the friendship love feel lows is I guess that you know the like love I love a taco whatever in a gap Hey this is what you're talking about now the word I've got pay love is divine love it is selfless ness in cornet that is the love that we are commanded to have toward our enemies right and and what what analyze what I get paid sales okay getting killed I think four steps first recognizing of enemy is is much god's creature as as we are equal in that sense to recognize and wanting for that enemy what god wants for which is repentance and eternal salvation we have to want that unconditionally that's why it's good that we we provide a Christian pastors two thousand to the **** war criminals in the dock at Nuremberg and I've read a wonderful book and an account of the you know these pastors and what they went through trying to convert Hammond Goering off if you want these people to accept Jesus his offer of mercy if you don't if you want them to go to hell your siding with the demon who drove them to commit the crime concisely and that's why when I ever read anything on social media people are rejoicing that so and so is burning in hell I think that whoever is thinking that can not be any kind of a Christian they're just deeply confuse that with that because there isn't there is that there is a sense in which divine justice is a good thing sure and we should not we should not more that divine justice happens but you're not dead and in heaven so you're not in a position to say anything about that it up and hope for mercy right the third we want for our enemy what we would want right we want for ourselves happy life good health and success except it here's the huge privy proviso that prevents Christianity for being just insanity or Buddhism except if your enemies of earthly happiness and success depend on injustice and might block are likely to block his salvation or blocked the salvation of other people then you must hope even work for his frustration failure okay and that is why Bon Hafer stood against Hitler and even got it part of a of a of a plot to kill Hitler because to him loving his enemy meaning loving Hitler was partially preventing Hitler from doing more evil to damn himself further so this is a little complicated gonna go to a break but luckily we've got John's mere act for the rest of the hour I know you won't go away and we'll see you later thank you this is A. M. nine seven the answer like ring forty one degrees what's going on we have the answer all of them like PT detective Brian.