Diop, Turtle Lake, Arkansas discussed on Science... sort of


Have two major Clayton's the Arkansas which include crocodilians, anything crocodile, like terrorists, dinosaurs, and birds are dinosaurs. And then you have the lupita sors, which are snakes lizards to Atara 's and lizards include things like Muslims horses. Well, with some really cool fossil members of that group and turtles Testudo nays. We're kind of unclear where they fit in this schema if they fit neatly in there at all. Well, yeah. I mean, I think if you consider them at third group it's just unclear if they belong as being more closely related to delusions, his snakes more closely related to the architectures the dinosaurs. And crocodiles, what do you think? I don't. On record. I don't know. I I've been outta that game for so long now when I was a master student. I might have had a an opinion that I could have at least backed up with something. I heard somebody say some time. But now, I don't know. So the the other names for the the Arkansas or the Diop's it's are actually for for lots of that tells the. Diop's it's because they have to holds two arches in their skull, basically reptiles for the most part or Diop's sits and mammals are synapses and turtles are called NS because they had no holes in their school. So like, I said turtles had been every time you find a turtle. It's clearly a turtle. This is the one even the one that the previously most primitive turtle lake bound had the bottom of its shell. Even if it didn't have the top of it already in place. So every turtle you're like, yeah. That's a turtle. So it's really hard to figure out what turtles are related to. Because when you find on it. It just needs the the pizza in the ninja weapons you're saying without a missing link. The fossil record is a lie, and we should discredit evolution. Yeah. I don't think you'd putting words in my mouth when you say that. No. But this is a really cool find, and this is the sort of thing when people ask me about like, how do you know what to look for in the fossil record? It's discoveries like this where I don't know the exact circumstances by which this was found. I did read the title of the paper. But the authors of the paper were shouldn't Lee nNcholas Fraser, who's the researcher in Scotland Olivier repel and Jao Hsien Lou it is behind a paywall, but we will link to the nature paper as well. As BBC article in the show notes describing this. But it's this sort of thing where it's like, I don't know the exact context by which they found this particular animal, but it is discoveries. Like, this that tell you what to go look for next. And I think that is as valuable as the fossil find itself is that it gives you the next part of the story and gives you a search image of like, okay? This is the kind of thing we need to be looking for in related or slightly earlier fossil sites around the world. Do you? Remember, Nate Dominy? Yeah. Of course, he's he's now at Dartmouth. But he wants asked me it's like if you could go back to any time in history. When would it be what would you be going to look for than I thought about it for a little while? I think I'd go back to the triassic because I wanna see. I want to say that. But the turtle looks like before it becomes turtle. Now, we have an idea getting closer. Well, those turtles would have needed to go to the bathroom at some point while they were alive. Patrick both agree. So you sent in an article awhile ago this is from last year. It's a piece from the Atlantic written by Elizabeth Preston. And the title is a very intriguing and compelling title to me at least, and it's who's peeing in the global pool..

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