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Bloomberg business flash. Gotta charlie. Thank you so much. You are listening to Bloomberg BusinessWeek on this Monday. Jason Kelly carolmassar right here on Bloomberg radio. The next big. The next big thing. It's something we've come to expect from IBM, especially the research division, Carol Dr Jeff well, sir. He is with us from San Francisco. He's at IBM stink twenty nineteen conference. And he's got the five in five, and we don't have time to go deep into all of it. But Jeff tell us about the overarching theme here because it has to food. Yeah. That's right. I think for me. Caroline jason. Yeah. So five and five every year, we try and help with five technologies that we think will have impact on the world in the next five years this year, we're focused on how a I t blockchain cloud are really going to affect something. We all love, which is food. All right. So tell us a little bit about the issues that you guys are looking at because, you know, it's funny. I was saying to Jason before we get going. This is a topic that has come up recently. And we've certainly been discussing about kind of the food concerns that we will have going forward. So. Ibm how you guys approached it? And some of the things that you're working on that might be come more of the norm in terms of solving. Some of the the food issues that will have in the coming years. Right. Well, it starts right from the seat right at the farm. So one of the first things we're talking about is the ability to actually create digital doubles of farms with no IOT sensors, a lot of satellite imagery, being overlaid there. So you really can know exactly what's happening in the farm to maximize yields and hopefully, reduce waste and information. And then also be shared with everyone else in the by chain with banks and equipment manufacturers who can then make decisions on getting loans out or lending to people. So we can maximize everything that comes out from the farm because that's obviously the first the first thing you want to do is get as much out as possible. Go ahead. From there. You know, what you have to get out of the field. And that's really to the harvest time annual at that point. We have a very global food supply chain, which is pretty complex these days with lots of different distribution centers of fen manufacturers shipping companies by putting them all onto a blockchain. We hope to reduce some of the ways in that in that chain so far. Something like forty percents of the food that we put in the chain. Now actually goes to waste because it spoils along the way we think by actually tracking better and having people be able to share that information of blockchain we can really reduce that number tremendously. Yeah. And it's interesting too. I thought I want to jump ahead a little bit. Because you guys talk about a lot of things that you're working on to really detect bad bacteria pathogens that we have to be worried about I mean that's gonna be key right in terms of again going to avoid kind of wasted food that often happens with our existing food supply. Yeah. I think there's two different things. We're looking at right now along that line. One is you'll four the retailers and the people in the restaurants to be able to use the microbiome to really study all the bacteria and our food. We're all familiar with the fact that microbiomes bacteria bacteria in the food. Most is really good for us in a very healthy. So that's not. But by monitoring all of it. We think you're gonna end up with much better results in terms of food supply chain. And Secondly, we're developing more portable sensors that people could really use in their homes just attached to their cellphone. So you could literally be seen little 'Bacterial that are few microns inside with some sensors that could detect hey that one looks looks like a problem. So, you know, beware before you eat, can I can I just follow up on that though. I mean by the time it gets to our home. If there's pathogens we're going to have to toss it out. So I am curious about, you know, getting right at the earlier stage of food production right to avoid it getting all the way to kind of our homes, right? And I think that's what this microbiome approach it. Interesting. You know, one of the things we've heard from the company too big test for everything they know they're supposed to test for right? But something sometimes something sneaks him. They didn't know they were supposed to be testing for the microbiome is kind of like the canary in the coal mine if the population of bacteria, even the good bacteria shift one day gives you that headlights wait, wait something's wrong with this particular food sample stop now, don't put it in the factory go check it out. See what's going on before it gets too far? So Jeff before we let you go. I do want to talk about recycling. Because I like this is something you guys talk about at your house. We talked about it at my house all the time. We've raised a generation that's highly focused on this. But we all have these questions of like is stuff really getting recycled is this really working tell us where we go next. Jeff. Yeah. So you're exactly right. So plastic recycling is a big deal. The reality is though that there's only some plastic thing really be recycled efficiently died, plastic or it has a garbage on it or labeled. It can't really be recycled very effectively. So it just gets disposed of we can't with a new process called the bowl cats which adds. She can take any kind of PET plastic which is the most prevalent. We've got right now in the food supply chain and really dissolve it right back down to the base chemical. So it really can be truly recycled. It's like having a completely pure chemical from the beginning all died get washed away. So you really couldn't recycle over and over and over to make this real. Hey, Jeff, just quickly thirty seconds or how quickly does all of this. Stuff's kinda get implemented. What are you guys seeing along the food chain, no pun intended? That's right. So these are all we search project at this point. But all of them have prototypes. We're doing today or he the Mars corporation, for example on the on the microbiome works. We already have a food trust the blockchain we're joined with WalMart. I we're looking for partners to scale up the things we're doing around recycling. So I think that's what we're saying. In five years, we don't necessarily guarantee products and five years, but we think that's kind of time frame one with some real effects from this. All right. Dr Jeff, sir. He's vice president IBM research joining us on the phone from San Francisco, and you know, he talked about Mars, which we know are Joe Webb at BusinessWeek talked to him in. And that was certainly sustainability a key issue that they are dealing with. All right. Good stuff. Let's get down to Nancy Lyons. She's.

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