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"We understood the supply chain nowadays. Gosh it's difficult. It's so difficult because everything's into connected everything. Everything said note on the network but I think just to that original point. It's what you said. It's the big the reason that we were involved in consultant on. It wasn't because this tiny little company in Asia but we use in children to make clothes and things because nobody would ahead of them after or cared to be honest and that's a terrible thing to say but they wouldn't but it was because all the way the top that was huge retail customer at the end of it. Yeah it was suffering the publicity and they didn't handle it well. They denied denied and they suggest not our fault because this is fair tier and it never went. Well he was feeling and it tells me that what you're saying gene about monster. North is there was a feeling even though it's not your fault even though you couldn't prevent it you have to tell because you're the big name APP absolutely and anew regardless Passing the blindness is never a good idea and I think perhaps also on the back of regulations such as the GDP. I see this is now changing slowly but is changing and because there is a fundamental principle in the which is called accountability and and therefore you have to be accountable because you are at some point part of that value you chain whether it's your fault or not you have a duty of care if you become aware of it or if you feel you tin help with it. You have a duty of care to be accountable to enjoy that. Trust you and especially if you've got that brand hootie absolutely absolutely well to now just and just to finish his you very genesee you time. He just wants to rescue more things than we kind of finish this but I have to ask the ski a little bit about the the event I met you at was a women security and it's a topic that honestly there's a lot of my female guests we it's almost difficult. Want to open really because if feels like it's easy to say they're on thing do the wrong thing angle. I mean what's your view the way see. That's all gone in the industry. Now it seems to be a lot of initiatives Stran- help right. There are definitely a lot of initiatives trying to help and There are a lot of companies you start trying to help but what is your question specifically. I'm wondering what you think is I think on the one hand. I see that the same as she ah awards and this company's China encourage women especially into technology generally but then at the same time. I'm offering a bit skeptical about how effectively as and when I speak to you. I kind of wondered if if it if it ever really came of fear. I can't imagine that you design anything but we're hard towards your goals goals and I wanted to either. You know whether you experience any difficulties often what you feel confused. Never I never experienced any difficulties myself But a ten why. I'm pretty sure I might have but at probably be didn't notice that's there so so that's that's was mine and then again I say that I'm white and everything in English and I I guess I have to say I'm sure I did. I'm sure it was but it was hard for me to see it in the state for half me to give a proper opinion toys and and for me it was always the case. This is where I am this. This is what I want to be in this is you are want to be regardless of what the industry was when I was working for technology companies TWAS also may dominated so yes the cybersecurity industry insecurity industry in general is male-dominated but that is true in general of the technology industry natives true the banking industry and the payments industry and so on and so forth. So it's not a new thing There are very real facts in terms for the disparity Have experienced it myself. I probably did. I didn't notice because of our they. It was relevant not important or or I was trying to achieve something else and that's what I was going to to get out wooden. Let that get in my way And and at the end of the day His another strap line for Eugenie. No the first one being if you don't ask you a you don't get there is never a person that will blow your own trumpet better than yourself and the other one his. If you can't change the people change the people sometimes it's your own. Self that is such brilliance advice. Nick saves me asking in that last question near. It's always a delight. Even to speak with chatty you just such a force of nature. Thank you so much Jenny. I look at you so motion. I'm so glad to finally get you on the show. I just wondered if there was anyone you think I should interview next on the show who could be command. Who could recommend to interview on this show do specifically want to cybersecurity person now? We just like interest in people on the show listeners. Like me to interview. I think people from all backgrounds. So anyone who you think might make a good guess would be great. I think trolls are team. would be a really good guest yes you you met him or you mentioned. You've met him before but you saw him at the last event he really nice guests a I think a Sarai Ready gone who is CEO of payment. which is a newly created payments company? Doing extremely well. We'd be good guests on your show. Oh He's such from what I think he will be. And I absolutely take your station but we might need to tell him that you might need to tell him that you sent me. Oh absolutely it's very happy to introduce you all without view so elicit near. What's what's coming to see what what about next year? You got an interest in projects objects or anything. You'd like to talk about anything I'd like to talk about. No not really at tight at each as as it comes over the got a good pipeline for the next year of the usual stuff but might not for me. I'm getting ready for Christmas. It's a pleasure on a delight to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being a guest on the human factor near Jones. Thank you for having me. If you'd like to sponsor an episode of the human factor security. podcast his is often enquiries Ariz at human factors Security Darko dot UK. And get your message out to all of our lovely listeners. Thank you all and see you again next side.."