Andy Richter, Loren Bouchard, Brooklyn discussed on The Three Questions with Andy Richter


Hi there this is Andy Richter and you are listening to the three questions my guest today Loren Bouchard the creator of Bob's early wins what do they call it squiggle vision squiggle vision yeah yeah it moved it was shaky Zeros Animated Shaky Cam we were we had to move something because we didn't know how to make people walk or we didn't we weren't interested in like a lot of action you know it was basically going to be talking heads had to move so there was this idea you know just keep the keep everything squiggling right right and and it worked you know more or less we did Put It on the big screen it was like a comedy central arrange to have shorts in front of movies for a hot second and we went to the premier like a general cinemas in Framingham Ma ask and those of us that sat in the front row were actually nauseous Oh really Esquivel Vision on the big screen much I could see that yeah well it's I think the thing with the shaky camera on on TV you know like on your CS is or whatever would be nauseating an in a big screen I think so this is this is a relatively new endeavor this podcast but the the the notion behind it I don't know did I explain it to you at all three questions he questions they are where do you come from where are you going now what have you learned down so nervous all them why they came in stomach ache why no no no no we'll see here but here's the thing you create some of the most tender television all in the world in history I mean you were you were one of the first people I wanted to have on here number one because you're one of my favorite people to talk to and because I've never did you talk places and for two to have like deb created this show that means so much to so many people I feel like you should be out there blabbing ha well you'll see you'll see why in a second all right yeah you're a real salesman yeah so luck buddy yeah it's look you've got to have when you start a podcast burnoff I think you're right you don't even this one what is doesn't even have to try you'll learn from this and then you'll apply Kelly Ripa of all people if I can aim here told told me and it's probably it's probably a common saying but her her mother told her kids are like pancakes always ruined the first one wow yeah it's not far from true no hey I mean you know and yeah podcasts even more hard cash so the first one where do you come from where I know you're a New Yorker Oh you're not Austin Boston New York that's where that's where I met you is in New York right yeah born in New York then mostly raised in the Boston area and actually started my professional career in the Boston area and then moved to New York had dinner with you right and had dinner with me where he met and what about your folks what did they do they were type of people where they I'm very much I the to answer the question where I come from I really am my parents kid it's interesting now is I get to be you know for it to look back and see how much my parents kid my mom From New York Jewish Brooklyn In her parents were immigrants she was a writer always knew she wanted to do that. I think she was very driven you know got education kind of got out of Brooklyn but then really down when she met my dad and you know her folks were not happy. He's from National Hampshire and french-canadian you know I'm not a Jew his people were Catholic and he was a real artist like Bohemian who was like data just before his whole life and he was just going to be an artist a painter and he came from big family yeah he and his brothers were you know real fuck ups and his and his family was a mess or not fuck ups but they were they were blue collar artists a part of the American story that doesn't get told that underrepresented yeah yeah because I know I I mean coming from Chicago I knew a lot of people like that a lot of people that just kind of like when you when you're blue car color artists somewhere you just doing it because you've got it do you know like if you're a sculptor you're you're also doing bodywork kind of thing you have no choice who are truly doing this because you have no choice and you don't really have prospects yes that's the other thing is not necessarily ever GonNa you know that going in it's an odd corn of it I think it's beautiful and I admired and I think it's informed me a lot one question because for me Oh I don't know that if I had stayed in Chicago like that I hadn't for whatever reason been in possession of something that got me the two dead allowed me to do this professionally for a long time for a blessedly longtime and and have a successful career I don't know that if that hadn't happened for me that I'd be still one of those people at age fifty two doing Improv in Chicago and I wondered the same thing with you if you this sort of working in show bizz in creating television shows hadn't worked out for you do you think you'd still be as much of an artist as you are today it's a great question I don't know the answer I joke a lot about how always ready to go back to bartending my shorthand for just kind of hey I can fall back on that album yeah fucking shit yeah yeah exactly and I it's possible yeah for me in Boston they might have been yeah the restaurant business maybe would have expanded to fill and I would've yeah maybe managed to place for a few it will also to cooking and food is a creative endeavor anyway it involves the same sort of like spacial relations and problem solving and linear kind of thinking and I you know like for me I mean one of my big things has always been like what I want to say and I don't I don't fucking know no idea what I want to say and I get as much and the notion that like if I was given the opportunity do whatever I wanted here you go show business do whatever you want whatever that would be I get as much satisfaction for making dinner right I mean like looking just the other day I had a whole afternoon I had a bunch of nervous energy for one reason or another and I just like all right I'm GonNa make a big fucking elaborate meal just that I agree and I I have two thoughts for that one is going back to my dad for a second I think about him a lot because he came from the intense the Bohemian Artists who were just finding it and just doing it it was almost that they had to be like wow I don't care if I ever if I ever have an audience I don't sure yeah I I have to do this in dialogue with myself and my demons and my hopes for the culture but it's not necessarily with an audience and in a way a the one thing and he and I talked about this a lot when i sort of stumbled backwards and flop down into show business and found that I loved it and realized I wanted to do this for the rest of my life I was intensely interested in what the audience wanted this goes to cooking it's like it's satisfying because in a way it's you it's the work and the third very important piece which is boom you put it in front of somebody s and you get back something really important you're either making them happier may be you know or they're freaking out for whatever reason yup you had you needed that third word and that's sometimes I differentiate is this kind of like pure thing that you do for yourself I took this picture of my shoes and I worked with Photoshop and I never showed any real is the way or I have volumes of poetry that will never show anyone that kind of yeah exactly and then for me I suspect for you and for people who Cook Food and bartenders there's also the great pleasure of putting it in front yes somebody else it is actually the the last when you need it and I think that's definitely true and there are there's degrees to putting in front of somebody in needing too much like you know like like meeting the person and not just say oh this is delicious soup but but like the shit their pants and go oh my God you know and there is just been around like that you know there's that level then there's also the level that I sometimes deal with is that I feel like I wish I had more of that notion of just doing it for myself off because I there's sometimes I feel like I don't know what what there is to do for myself you know like what I be what you know what I be telling stories soon if I won the lottery would I ever do anything other again than cook elaborate meals took all afternoon you know so that's not about you that's about me but I like it because I this again this is the to going back to where do you come from because I come from these artists my mother's writer my dad is visual artists they're both more capital artists and I am yeah but in a way I know that the writing and the visual arts sort of intersect with rated animation absolutely I mean you can draw the line see I was destined in a way or created in a lab to do this work and yet when I was growing up I knew what the creative and ever looked like my mother would go up to her little office to write a my dad would go to his studio to paint but I didn't know about this thing with the audience and so I I guess to me the answer is if you won the lottery I suspect this is true of you too but at least for me I would still do something that I wanted to out into the wall and I really wanted to land with somebody it doesn't have to be a big audience I I really liked doing Bob's for a big audience but I also they liked making shows on cable for small audience shore it really doesn't have to be big it just has to be deep yeah yeah it has to be that audience that gets some deeply sure yeah deep or or what it's like pleasure plus right it's like there's make somebody happy like I want to make people happy right maybe that's the third question in this experimental it doesn't matter if they don't have to go in order but I guess it's interesting because it's like you don't want it to be junk-food right can you make people happy sure but it's bad for limited nutritional value yes and so there is like there's the deep satisfaction of a piece of work that's been loved a carefully crafted like a meal and serve to somebody who likes it and gets nourishment from it nonsense passing right exactly and then we would do that I assume that's the thing we're driven to do and maybe the medium isn't as important that's I guess that's right yeah I guess that's right now when coming from that did you for in that environment I mean because that is very interesting to me that you you had that paradigm of what creative people going into creative spaces looked yeah did you sort of just then follow in that kind of naturally did that become like a natural flow for you and and what form did it take I yes I think I did I again none none of this clear at the time wasn't a narrative that we talked about you know as I was when I was a kid I don't remember them saying like there's a path in front of you it's the create the past of the creative never ever spoken about at least not that I remember but I do have this very clear memory of going into the garage and saying yeah I got this four track and I really wanted to have a space in the garage where it was my studio and it and now I have kids and I I see them doing that like can this be my desk yeah yeah okay that's your desk so I think there's like some of it is you're modeling this idea that you go replace whether it's even just the end of the kitchen table that's like your little kind of space where you create your grownup kids do that really can't just go and play or whatever but I think if I think when I was a kid where do I come from I do think I'm seeing my parents go into their little area and their job yet the way I understood it as a kid but I now see kind of they're calling their thing they could not do and I do it probably did have an effect on me yeah I think he gives you permission to keep that part of you that you do naturally as a kid that some people like leave behind as an adult data vault is you know it's fairly simple I can kind of now looking back tell it in you know more or less two sentences which is my mother died oh and my dad wasn't freaked out about the fact that.

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