Israel, Shiloh Israel, Founder And President discussed on Dave Ramsey
It also hurt the US economy as a whole it lost eleven billion dollars during the government shutdown according to the Congressional Budget Office, and they estimate while most will eventually be recovered around. Three billion won't be in Washington. I'm marine Mattis. President Trump has ruled out declaring a national emergency to get funding for the wall of a deal has not been made by the funding deadline of February the fifteenth, and of course, as we've outlined on this program. There are at least four federal laws of it allow him to do just that. So the whole issue here, of course, is the wall. It's not the funding of the wall. That's just an area that has been picked out as the field for the fight five point seven billion or one point three billion chump change in terms of federal expenditures notices about the whole notion of a wall per se, and in particular do walls work, well as that report noted talking to experts that might be. A good idea to talk to somebody who has had experience in dealing with such wall. And so we have with us this evening. The former mayor of Shiloh Israel and be founder and president of Shiloh Israel children's fund. And he is the man who joins us this evening. David rubin. David thank you for being with us. Oh, thank you. It's good to be with you. Let's start with the basically the situation you faced in Shiloh Israel. Where is that? It israel. Well, the situation with her son to since the walls. Has nothing to do with with silo Israel in particular. The situation as it pertains to the walls has to do with two locations in Israel and two different walls. Okay. And now that would be one along the what Gaza and the other one on the West Bank. Correct. Correct. So the so the first wall that was built. Was that there were foreign to us is the wall that was built to separate and Samaria the two regions that comprise what much of the world calls the West Bank. And so. It was a wall built has two waves of terrorism in which thousands of people were either killed the wounded thousands of Israeli civilians were killed the wounded by Slamet terrorists over the course of just a few years, and these really government had to do something about it. And aside from all the other things that you do to try to stop terrorists and preventive preventive measures reactive measures, all kinds of things will be done. But it wasn't enough until physical barrier was built so the Isreaeli government decided to to build a wall. Yes, and was partially concrete and about twenty five feet high. And much of it was made of steel. See-through still. Nuts not directly going up, but sort of slanted in certain places to make it more difficult to climb over. It all said Bob wire on the top of it and various high tech measures were used to help with the patrols. And this was built within the span of few years. Two was completed. Terrorism it Israel's major cities which was designed to stop. Decreased by ninety five percents ninety five percent. Yeah. That that's that is a remarkable figure for those who who say that walls, art, effective. That's about as affective as you can get. Exactly, exactly. And and this is. This is to stop terrorism. Okay. So the second wall that was built was designed to stop something else. Okay. And from the years two thousand ten to two thousand twelve fifty five thousand illegal immigrants who came in through the southern border the border that separates Israel from Egypt. Those immigrants mostly from. He's a suit Diane or read three ah. Northern africa. And and there was coming into economic reasons extensively, but many of them were coming in to do other things as well. Keep in mind that Israel is country in in terms of area and population that is about the size of New Jersey. So five thousand is a lot. That's why it's enormous amount of people. And so so something had to be done about it. So these these fifty thousand people were settling in south Tel Aviv, mostly Tel Aviv. It's probably the most cosmopolitan city in Israel. But there isn't that? There hasn't been let's say in truth, the hasn't been that much street crime. So there there was this problems terrorism still is to a minor extent. But but the problem of of street crime really really wasn't there. Do not like in major cities like Chicago in LA, and you know, the United States, but but something had to be done because after after that period of two thousand ten to two thousand twelve we saw sky Rick styruck in rates of of murders, and rapes mostly in south Tel Aviv. And there was a grassroots movement to get these rarely tough to do something about those major demonstrations in the streets in the heavy pressure on the Israeli government to do something about it. So they decided to build a wall. Yes. A physical barrier. Okay. The fence if you want this particular one wasn't built of concrete. It was a very strong steel wall much like what I described earlier with with Bob wire with high tech measures to complement the physical barrier. This was built over several hundred miles on the border between Israel and Egypt. And in the year after it was completed. Do only eleven immigrants were able to get into Israel who crossed in illegally. Illegal immigra-, exactly and managed somehow get through that. That border and that was two thousand sixteen in two thousand just before two thousand seventeen years rarely government raised that fence for four feet higher to about twenty six seats. And let's you more high tech measures and in two thousand seventeen zero immigrants illegal immigrants cross that border. So anyone who says that walls do not work? They they just don't know what they're talking about. It's it's more. They have an agenda or they have an agenda, which you know, that for whatever reason they cannot admit that Walsworth. But but what I what I'm saying is, hey, let's take a deep breath on both sides of the aisle and just examine the facts. And and here you have to. Very undeniable facts or to two hundred I will walls to walls that work and and have worked the digital work. One. Eight six six five O JIMBO is our number one eight six six five zero five four six two six David Rueben is our guest for mayor of Shiloh Israel, use the founder and president of Shiloh Israel children's fund and he has also by the way, the author of the new book Trump and the Jews about which we will discuss in just a few minutes. Here will also take some calls for David Ruben when we come back in just a moment. Geico.