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Equation <Speech_Male> <SpeakerChange> <Silence> <Speech_Male> will change. <SpeakerChange> Swapping <Speech_Male> prisoners, <Speech_Male> of course, isn't <Speech_Male> a new <Speech_Male> practice. We even <Speech_Male> saw one earlier this <Speech_Male> year between Russia <Speech_Male> and the United <Speech_Male> States and we covered on the <Speech_Male> show with Trevor <Speech_Male> Reed, <Speech_Male> is it ever <Speech_Male> even are these <Speech_Male> trades <SpeakerChange> <Speech_Male> ever sort of <Speech_Male> comparable <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> crimes or suspected <Speech_Male> crimes or <Speech_Male> accusations or <Speech_Male> whatever it might be? <Speech_Male> No, I mean, they <Speech_Male> really aren't. If you <Speech_Male> look, you have the <Speech_Male> Palestinian Israeli <Speech_Male> swaps all the time when you <Speech_Male> get hundreds of people out of <Speech_Male> prison in exchange for <Speech_Male> three students. <Speech_Male> Numerically, <Speech_Male> it may <Speech_Male> not be equal. But <Speech_Male> I think, again, in <Speech_Male> situations like that, <Speech_Male> you look at the preponderance <Speech_Male> of what <Speech_Male> brings the most <Speech_Male> good to the most people. <Speech_Male> At the end of <Speech_Male> the day, you have to <Speech_Male> calculate our <Speech_Male> Americans <Speech_Male> better off and <Speech_Male> their security better <Speech_Male> off by doing the <Speech_Male> trade than not, <Speech_Male> but ultimately <Speech_Male> the president of the United <Speech_Male> States has <Speech_Male> to make that <Speech_Male> decision. And I <Speech_Male> think in this case, <Speech_Male> it's the right <Silence> decision. <SpeakerChange> <Speech_Male> But I don't think you can <Speech_Male> look at it in <Speech_Male> terms of <Speech_Male> absolute fairness <Speech_Male> because in this case, <Speech_Male> it is horrendously <Speech_Male> unfair. <SpeakerChange> <Speech_Male> Do you think there's <Speech_Male> something that <Speech_Male> these sort of <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> international prisoners <Speech_Male> swaps teaches <Speech_Male> us about how <Speech_Male> the world <SpeakerChange> works? <Silence> Well, I <Speech_Male> think it shows that <Speech_Male> every country has <Speech_Male> specific interests <Speech_Male> that it wants <Speech_Male> to <Speech_Male> protect and defend. <Speech_Male> <Music> <Music> <Music> <Speech_Music_Male> <SpeakerChange> <Speech_Music_Male> And I think <Speech_Male> one of the things I <Speech_Male> would like to think <Speech_Music_Male> about with the United States <Speech_Music_Male> in this particular case <Speech_Music_Male> is we are willing <Speech_Music_Male> to show compassion <Speech_Male> and a level <Speech_Male> of mercy that <Speech_Music_Male> Russia <Speech_Music_Male> would never be able to <Speech_Music_Male> share <Speech_Music_Male> in a similar <Speech_Male> situation. I <Speech_Male> don't think it makes us necessarily <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> morally superior, <Speech_Music_Male> but anything like that, but <Speech_Music_Male> I think that <Speech_Music_Male> being able to show <Speech_Male> compassion, especially <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> when <Speech_Music_Male> a sentence has <Speech_Music_Male> been served Victor boost <Speech_Music_Male> been in for 11 years. <Speech_Male> He was actually held <Speech_Male> since 2008 <Speech_Male> in really <Speech_Music_Male> crappy conditions in time. <Speech_Music_Male> So he has those three <Speech_Music_Male> years added on <Speech_Male> to it. So I <Speech_Male> think that <Speech_Male> the <SpeakerChange> sum of <Speech_Music_Male> what he has paid <Speech_Music_Male> if he <Speech_Music_Male> stays in prison <Speech_Music_Male> here and gets out <Speech_Male> in two years. <Speech_Music_Male> <Speech_Music_Male> If we can <Speech_Music_Male> <SpeakerChange> just do it <Speech_Music_Male> now and get Brittany <Speech_Music_Male> back and <Speech_Male> save her life in a way, <Speech_Male> I think to me <Speech_Music_Male> that is an act of <Speech_Music_Male> mercy for <Speech_Music_Male> Victor and <Speech_Male> an act of compassion for <Speech_Male> Britney. <Speech_Music_Male> <Music> <Music> <Speech_Music_Male> <SpeakerChange> <Speech_Male> <Advertisement> Douglas <Speech_Male> <Advertisement> Farrah is one of the <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> authors of merchant <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> of death, <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> money, <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> guns, planes, <Speech_Male> <Advertisement> and the man who <Speech_Male> <Advertisement> makes war possible <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> you can find it <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> wherever you find your books. <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> He's also the founder and <Speech_Male> president of IBI <Speech_Male> consultants. <Speech_Male> He and his <Speech_Music_Male> fellow consultants <Speech_Music_Male> think a lot about security <Speech_Music_Male> challenges in Latin <Speech_Male> America <Speech_Male> are sure that it was produced <Speech_Male> by Hadi <Speech_Music_Male> magdi, <Speech_Music_Male> edited by Matthew <Speech_Male> collette fact checked <Speech_Male> by Laura bullard and <Speech_Male> Victoria Dominguez <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> and mixed by Paul mounsey <Speech_Music_Male> <Advertisement> thanks <Speech_Music_Male> to 60 minutes he heard <Speech_Male> some of their interviews on the <Speech_Male> show today. I'm <Speech_Music_Male> Sean Ramos from <Speech_Music_Male> this is today <Speech_Music_Male> explained.

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