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And mostly his fan the ends i am your host jesse jackson and as i said on twitter today this is a long time coming <hes> i. I have a guest joining me that i have been wanting to have kosh over a year. Maybe even longer <hes> but she said all good things come to wait and she's told me be patient so welcome to the show hi. I'm happy to be here so is it carolyn or caroline caroline okay <hes>. That's what i thought it was so tell us a little bit about yourself sure <hes> i live in new york city. <hes> i work at film at lincoln center. I'm a big movie fan. <hes> i love bruce obviously <hes> big classic rock fan. I love <hes> a lot of my time. Really is the spent <hes> yeah going to the movies around new york city. It's such a great place <hes> casino <hes> yeah and you are a writer by trade yes. I'm i'm also a writer. <hes> i do that part time as well. I'm like a film critic for several outlet. Yeah and caroline has a eight book coming out that is about a certain singer songwriter from the jersey area but we're gonna get to that in a little bit so as we always like to start at the beginning which is a very good place to start to include a reference talk about growing up mentioned mentioned grow up what kind of music family listen to what kind of music did you listen to his kitten. Yeah i <hes> i grew up in new jersey. Ah like grew and i went to catholic school. <hes> in in terms of music i would <hes> i listened to a lot of broadway show tunes. I go to the city. A lot to broadway shows <hes> i i. I was listening to a lot of like sometimes movie soundtracks but also like classic wrong. I remember like elvis a lot. When i was younger <hes> <hes> yeah i mean honestly i really most part. Listen to a lot of what my parents listen to and those their you know generation of news music from like the seventies and the eighties and so on i really grew up a lot on their music <hes> because i was an only child kyle so i don't know i was very close to them and we sort of all just shared the same case so <hes> yeah that's. That's a common theme. <hes> we see that <hes> did a when you started going to junior high high school did in your musical tastes change or did you stick pretty consistent. I mean i you know i guess during like middle school. Will i <hes> maybe listen to more like top forty like <hes> big middle school and <hes> like fifth grade read. Maybe <hes> just truly that those awkward years trying to fit in and listen to what everybody else was listening to <hes> burma but then when i went to high school i sort of gravitated back to when i listened to as a kid <hes> you didn't go through a phase where you were. Are you know rebelling against your parents and listening to scary music or anything. No i didn't go that far. I think i think the scary thing like i don't know like i listen in green day and like i was a little too much for my mom sometimes but no like furthermost the most part i was pretty good very nice <hes> so can you remember when you discovered bruce and yeah i do. I really do <hes> <hes>. I it was when the essential disc came out. I think it was either. I i think it was two thousand and three <hes> <hes> and my uncle burned it for my mom and at the time i was very into intake eighties music because i had seen back to the future and i was obsessed with it so i just love like anything increm- eighty <hes> the my mom so anyway. My mom is claiming bruce's music and i really like of course the born in the u._s._a. Now dancing in the dark and all of that and <hes> so i i typically remember like taking her death and listening to a like on my walkman on the bus <hes> in the morning so i started liking groups i think i don't i'm trying to think of how old i was in two thousand and three. I'm i'm i'm i think i was in in <hes>. I think i was in like i was either like eleven or twelve so around that and i started getting into bruce you and i didn't really start seriously like giving into him more <hes> when i was like sixteen crooner seventeen in high school and besides your obsession with the eighties excuse he's me what about the what about his music spoke to you yeah. Well you know when i was younger. It was more just that i just i don't know there was something about it that i really do something about the sound. I really liked i. I really love ah mary's place. I remember listening to it on the buzz. I don't know the roost it had that sort of new jersey boardwalk sound almost like like i just loved it <hes> and then in high school i read <hes> i read this book called prozac nation and it's about a girl that's lake lake just having a really hard time you know emotionally and she connects to bruce's music and <hes> at the time time. I was just sort of you know. I guess you know i was a teenager and just going through. I guess a lot at the time and <hes> <hes> i i i need a list of all the songs that was referenced in the book and it was like <hes> once i hadn't heard before it like it was like the hammer smith version of thunder road <hes> and for you like those version <hes> it was the crom so it who's all these songs from bruce. I had never heard when i listened to them out. It just seemed like articulate although like bad but i don't know all the turmoil like emotionally that i was feeling at the time and it just really. I don't know there was something so like this are all about it. I just loved it. That's interesting. <hes> those are great eight songs and i could see how <hes> that's interesting i. I've <hes> i've never read the book did not do that. <hes> they had <hes> she talked about. Springsteen's may have to check it out now. <hes> the senior yeah. There's a lot of passages. It's actually actually kind of interesting like she because the memoir and like the girl herself like she he grew up on the upper east side and she was you know she was very privileged and she felt guilty about that and she liked liked bruce because she league wanted to like live that kind of blake gown trodden blue collar life plagued attracted her because it was so opposite of her own experience so i don't know i just always to me. I always found very interesting and that's why i don't know it. Wean me fascinated with bruce. Wanna know more about them so as you started researching how'd you do it. Did you. <hes> you just by different albums that you <hes> just how what was your journey like yeah. You know. I'm trying to remember early l. so like i don't know if felt like i was like meeting an old friend for the first time like it was just yeah i just brought all the cds and i yeah i bought all the seas and eventually that snow until like <hes> getting into tracks and then getting into unreleased song and before i knew it like i was reading <hes> and by had done by then i was in college and the <hes> book by carlin came out the biography <hes> so i read that and i was reading all kinds of other books and yeah i we like hooked and i just it was very rare for me to like love every single song that an artist put out so with bruce. It was just like everything i listened to. I was like i loved. I loved this <hes>. Ah yeah it was just it was amazing so carolina. I always like to stress that the amount of times you've seen bruce is not a fair barometer kind of fan. You are because a lot of it can be dictated by circumstances where you live. You've all those things just for the record. Do you know do you have a count of how many times you've seen them live well. I mean i think if gas yes appearances count. I believe up to like ten <hes> 'cause. I didn't get to see him until the high hopes tour <hes> but yeah matt like ten times. You recently saw him on a little special time didn't you yes yes yeah talk a little absolutely <hes> i i. I've been talking to be a southside johnny for like a year. Now <hes> and i keep. I kept missing him like he would be. He would be in new york for new year's. Eve leave or he would be in new jersey for something and i i whatever reason i just never ended up going so i finally got tickets to him him on the stone pony summer stage which i've never done before and <hes> yeah honestly never even crossed my mind <hes> that bruce was would be there <hes> but you know i got a text from one of my friends as tame bomb in the crowd then before four i knew it he was playing with gary talent and i thought that was great and then the next thing i knew he was playing seven songs with southside outside in <hes> and it was just it was amazing wonderful summer nate <hes>. He did kitties bag they did. They did so armony songs and i. I just couldn't believe it was a <hes>. It was a really cool <hes> set list <hes> i and and i loved <hes> you know as a fan. Were kinda thinking you were looking for any excuse me it's like okay. That's did he's got the itch. It's been to las. He's performed. He's ready you sir. How was gary set. <hes> i enjoy gary. I actually only saw i saw the last half of the <hes> because i was trying to buy a parking but <hes> i yeah i was really cool. I had i had never heard his music war but <hes> yeah i really enjoyed it. I had bought his first. I <hes> c._d. Break time and i really liked voice. It's very different. It was a very cool cd t._v. <hes> had a little bit of different musical influences so i'm excited about his new one and <hes> i- homing tours outside of just the jersey area <hes> you know the ghosts like maybe come to texas so i could get a chance the siyam but yeah i mean. That's you know when he's up there with gary. I'm sure you're going. It couldn't be right like okay. Is he going to do this. And i'm thinking okay. He's going to do one song like they're gonna come coming non-core but to do that long. The settlers was just very very cool. I don't believe it frankly and especially because because he had been to the ponies and twenty eleven a rome talking about so i felt really special yeah so you mentioned a guest appearances a give me a few other examples of you saw them in the high hopes tour i know ended up going to broadway correct. Yeah i went. I went view time very nice. Yeah <hes> did and i i've via twitter you. You did get to kind of talk to him a little bit on the <hes> the going in or going out didn't you. I did yeah yes i mean i don't know how much he heard heard me say. I definitely tried to talk to them on you know i've told the story multiple times but when he was coming to austin for the book signing <hes> i drove all the way you know dallas alice austen three four hours.