Heroin, Seinfeld, San Diego discussed on Bill Press


Okay, Chuck, so there's another big push in good Samaritan laws in the United States. It's interesting how they're kind of like refined as, as things go on. But there's this thread the sentiment that runs through them. That's like, okay, we need to make sure that people are don't hesitate in helping their fellow their fellow human in need. Yeah. A lot of these I mean this label this special interest, good Samaritan laws, but these, these are great like it makes a lot of sense, especially while they all do, but this one about the food donation in the mid nineteen nineties, there was a realization that a lot of food was going to waste fourteen billion pounds specifically food go into landfills when people in America needed that food. And, you know, you've heard stories about grocery stores, can't be held liable. So they just have to throw that stuff away. Right. So they passed the Bill. Emerson good Samaritan food donation act, which is to provide some protections. In case you donate food, and someone gets sick from eating that food, right? Exactly. So I remember back when when grocery stores did have to throw that away before that law is just so wasteful, and so just morally wrong. So they passed that one ninety six Goodyear for passing laws. I guess. And then there's even newer kind of push of good Samaritan laws that are protecting college kids, who drinks, you even though they're underage. They might be worried on me and I'm going to get expelled or kicked out of college. Yeah. If I call for help, and so apparently that some of them weren't calling for help, and some universities, I think it's up to thirty two hundred and forty universities in thirty five states now have something called nine one one lifeline or nine one one, good Samaritan law where if you call for help for yourself or for somebody else who's head too much to drink, and it's like a medical emergency. You won't get in trouble for having been drinking under age. But it's laid the groundwork for a like a larger law about opioid abuse that we really kind of need that the good Samaritan law for that, that protects people who are calling for somebody who's overdosing on heroin where under normal circumstances. They might. Hesitate because they're on heroine themselves. And they don't wanna get busted for it. Yeah. What's it's called now? Zone. And this is basically it comes looking epi pen now and it's something that cops have their emergency kits and just like an epi pen, something that civilian can use. You don't have to medical training. If someone is overdosing on an an on heroin, or some other kind of opioid you just inject this thing. And that Kim, say their life and so do junkies. Don't wanna call the ambulance or the cops or whatever just the same as an underage college kid doesn't want to call the cops, so they're often described as medical amnesty laws and his great. You know exactly. And it's making a difference. There was one study in two thousand two at Cornell about the alcohol one and they said there was a rise from twenty two percent to fifty two percent of counseling sessions attended by students in two thousand four because students weren't afraid, you know, I'm nineteen years old or whatever. I need help. So they, you know, it's shown that it's working, and I think this is going on with this now drug right? Yeah. So like the naloxone kind of has its own protection where whether you're somebody who's on heroin or not, if you minister that you could be a medical professional. It's like such a new thing that, that they've they've realized they need a specific. Good Samaritan law for that, to cover anybody who's administering Nalic zone, like if they do some damage or whatever they were still trying to help. But then also, if you're like on heroin yourself just calling nine one one, you can have immunity in some states from getting busted for heroin for being on it yourself. Right. So, like, hey, we're gonna save you and you're under arrest. Right. Which I guess, is is still in some states. It's still a possibility don't like you don't want people worrying about whether they're going to get pop themselves. And then saying, well, I can't. Call for you know, shortage over here. Which is I guess a heroin users name. You know, so the, the, the heroin user, who's overdosing, who would otherwise live dies because they're the person, they shot up with, like, is too worried about getting busted themselves because the last thing, a heroin editor drug addict might do in the throes of that drug is thank let me call a cop, or right? A police officer. They might help. Right. They say, like as far as vice goes for good Samaritans. This article councils people that think sensibly most states do have laws to protect people that if you're doing something reasonable to try and help which all goes back to split second is kind of tough. But that goes back to what you're saying, like reasonable maneuvers to help somebody. Yeah. I mean it's not necessarily like like don't try the tracheotomy right right, right? So. Yeah. So that kinda ties into saying, don't try things. You're not trained to do and just kinda ties into reasonable like is, is trying to administer CPR reasonable thing if you come upon somebody's not breathing. Yes, totally reasonable. Is it is it, you know, unreasonable to try to get their heart going by by pumping their arms up and down in dislocating, the shoulder, probably not going to be protected by a good Samaritan law. Yeah, but how much can you get sued for for a broken collarbone, probably a lot, especially if the person's like ping pong player or professional illustrator? Yeah. Right. Exactly. You love it. We need to do an episode on pingpong. I love ping pong, too. I'm surprised we never squared squared off. I, I am as well, Chuck. Well, we've never been in the same room as a ping pong table today. I was thinking I was going to make a camp joke, but. Debate me to the truth. You got anything else? Oh, yes, I do. There's one thing that came up if you don't mind talking about it. The Seinfeld thing. Do you remember how that the final episode? Right, right. Yeah. Which is like the least funny episode of Seinfeld ever. But it had like a weird message when, when the gang gets gets put in jail for watching a guy, I think it was Jonathan Pinette get carjacked by somebody with a gun and just sitting there making fun of them while they're videotaping it, right? Yeah. And that kind of raise the this it kind of ties into good Samaritan laws. A lot of people are, like can you actually is there any place in the country where you can get get in trouble for that kind of thing? And it turns out no kind of falls into that duty to act law, where you are in some places like for Mont, or I think in, in California under some circumstances. You are required to report a crime, but you're not required to actually intervene. Like, kinda that big point I made earlier at the beginning of episodes. That's a big distinction, right? Yeah. And not only are you. You know, not required interview you're not even required to report the crime during the commission of their, the crime for most duty to act laws. You just can't walk away and pretend you never saw anything that's the that's where you will get prosecuted. So the Seinfeld gang probably would not have gone to jail, and this article that I read. Quotes, a guy who's an attorney in San Diego named somebody lists. Oh man. I wish I could remember the guy's name FRANZ Liszt. No not FRANZ Liszt, who's a great great composer. But a. L. I. S S lists. Yeah. Peter lists criminal lawyer from San Diego, ended up in this article he basically says, not only should they not have gone to jail. They provided very valuable evidence by recording the entire crime. So let them off the hook has there ever been a tougher show to end than Seinfeld. Probably not. But they really chose Severi specific unsatisfying way to do it. What about sopranos everybody hated how that? And it yeah. I didn't love the sopranos, but then moved to LA during its run and didn't have TV. So I quit watching it, but I do remember all the hoopla, but seinfeld's just one of those, I mean that the stunk but it's just a hard show to end because you can't it was the most sentimental show, probably in TV history. And most shows have finale that is highly sentimental. Right. And you just you couldn't do that on Seinfeld that would not have been true to the show. So I don't know what I would have done. It is tough one. Maybe it was the perfect ending wasn't a. You could make that case for sure. You know, I'd like to hear maybe if someone had a better idea. Okay. Right. Rewrite the Seinfeld finale. In one hundred sixty characters or less to us or to forty now. What is that? So weird. Anyway, I think that's the end of this episode. We kind of let this Peter out to. Yep. Okay. If you wanna learn more about good Samaritan laws actually a tip go. Learn your state and or countries good Samaritan laws. So you know what to do in your ever faced with an emergency situation. And since I said that it's time for listener mail. This one's great who's going to call it great Email guys in the spirit of thanksgiving in this glass of wine. I'm drinking. I wanted to reach out and tell you think lamb for you been listening to the show for a few years and your comforting voices light dad humor. An interesting topics have become increasingly important to me, my brother passed away, almost two years ago, the age of twenty four using credible. 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