China, America, Arne Duncan discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory


Pretense or a little pretense of giving, power to the local level Finland's clause, I exception but in places like Turkey Iran Russia China these places all have centralized minute ministries of education that she no qualms about, controlling every aspect, of, education so US secretary of education Arne Duncan a few years ago, said we need to look to China as. A model of of educational system because, they, do really, fantastic on standardized tests they've got something called the gal cow, which, is a con college entrance, exam and it's affectively. Determines which ten percent of Chinese students will go to college and ninety Eighty percent of, Chinese, students won't go to college or at least good kind of colleges it's a very pyramidal structure where just. A very top are saved, and, everybody, else, is in big trouble and you, know from my perspective to gal cows an awful exam because it doesn't. Respect different kinds of intelligence that different skill sets that young people, possess and you know every year when the Dow the results are now kids across China commit suicide notion that much. Pressure yeah under pressure and disappointment and, you know disappointed their families they've lost, face in front of their friends and family and so yeah no it's it's it's crazy It's crazy and you know some pe- some people want, America to have that kind of system and I say no way you know, there's a great, aspects of. America and there things like freedom and diversity and respecting lots of different types of ways of living and, yeah no I think that I think. The trend to make American education more like Chinese education is insane. NNcholas told me about your thoughts about trying to game affi- education, turn everything into a video game yeah. So you see, this is in line with the with the general trend to get students on computers for more and more of the day and it starts. With kindergarten and, one of my classes at Fordham I have students actually do the, video games that are being pitched. To, kindergartners and they're very. Very simple but, what effect is. That puts teachers in the in the background and so. In some, in, some, schools they. Are really Pushing the limits, of class size because there's just one teacher and just a a. Large group of, students all, staring at, pads so that that's one version of the education thing another is that people want to say that you can use games as. A way, to, measure intelligence and I don't know if you're familiar with this game fortnight but it's spreading it's. Spreading the like wildfire among young people and lots of teachers are, saying their students can't concentrate in. School. Because all they, do is play fortnight outside of school and they talk with their friends about it and what it is is your you're. Dropped from an airplane and with a lot of other players in, the goal is to kill the other players and you collect weapons and you, devise strategies to, kill other. People in the game teaching kids this well so they're they're not you know school to my knowledge is, using this but Stanford just came out with this new report sort of, saying hey listen you know when kids play it they learn about angles and they learn about jumping you know when they jumped they have to figure out the angle so I. Guess you could argue that it's learning some math along the way and teachers can harnessed kids interest. In fortnight as a way to to learn about things and, they can are. You know science or geography or something can't, learning social skills by playing with other kids and you want to say listen you know school is is something different than, playing video games and it just feels the lack of seriousness from my perspective, about the education conversations we're. Having in this country if you think if you think fortnight has educational value you've lost, sight of what the, value of education is we used to have a teacher that would love to run, movies in, class and, it ate, up seventy five percent of his his, class Time, when we saw a movie and I think he would show like three a, week, out, of a, five day schedule I, mean he just sat back and we watched movies, yeah no, yeah.

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