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"I know that that is not as strong of an argument as it was what one was and I guess to bring it back also the other guy has an ob so he's playing really well. He was hurt all last year. Basically basically rotation. He's come back shooting fifty percent on three and him and Pascal guy they had used to frequent tanks. They're both like six eight six nine. They're huge sure they're crazy fast. They move really well. They're smart players to me Toronto. They're just looking great. Yeah I I kind of wonder. or whether or not like Tron make trade to get to go all in here like I mean like what's like everybody has been like Messiah Messiah is always going to blow it up size going to tear it down to the studs and it's just GonNa be passed gallon. Og and they're gonNA get rid of all these guys. But I kind of wonder whether the season keeps going on like this and Oh bok is out for how long long a while rain a month ago. I don't remember but it's I I I don't know what do you think that he would. He would go out there and look for something thing that were to give them a shot at getting back to the finals because this is a wide open east. This isn't as I don't think this is open and shut as we thought it might be where it was. Just going to be a buck sixers two arrays. Celtics are coming on. We can talk about Brown and tatum. If we put like the Celtics obviously have a little bit of magic to them this season. I don't know I mean wh- like is it crazy to think of the the raptors as like an Eastern conference contender. Yes the East is a lot softer than I think we expected the sixers obviously a head injuries and the Celtics now with the hayward injury it does feel like at least in the regular season the number one spot is there for the taking so you never know I mean Middleton is out too so it just seems like even though the raptors have experienced injuries they do have this infrastructure and that's been able to stay in then they won just the other night in l. a. and it was just wildaid they don't really need everything. In order to rack up wins. I think I would be surprised if you Jerry did. Jury did the same thing he did with Kawhi. Why because the whole idea was they went all in for the title whereas I think the titles ewing for this team is significantly lower? Yeah man they traded for the best player in the world did not available right now. So let's talk a little bit about Brown and Tatum. I feel like I don't even know if we've spoken about the Celtics while I've been on the the podcast this season where he cut them last week. We're going to okay. Why don't you guys I? I actually haven't got too much Boston this season. So why don't you guys tell me a little bit about how they're how they're doing this. Just gotTa take for you. Do they even Miss Gordon Hayward Wow charkes is he trump to explain yourself on this looking at their roster and I feel like when Gordon's healthy. They've got four guys who want the ball and that's just one guy too many right. You've got Gordon. Kemba Brown. Tatum and Brown was hurt. Or are they going and I feel like you're just too many too many Maoz defeat when you go to three that everybody else around them. You have a big three. Get the balls but time on the ball everybody else plays a role whereas I think with four guys just comes very difficult and I think the way tatum browner playing. I think them taking a back acceder over like this their team now and. Hey where's gotta get in line. Yeah I totally agree with you. That they have a glut of wing. It tends to show when they are all available in all on the floor together. I don't know if that's necessarily a hayward issue though like you saw hayward it's like a personnel issue it's just more of like they're victims of circumstances. I actually actually think hayward more than Brown and Tatum has done a good job of being the one facilitating to all of those other guys. He's he's on the ball more he uses this is raise bigger than Since he left Utah he also is bigger. And you've also seen the advantage she brings on the boards for the Celtics at the the Celtics. Front core is is relegated to time Lord in spot minutes from January advice time awards plan pro at times at times and so so hayward really kinda stabilize them in the front court now Jalen Brown. A Better defender TATUM has kinda just like still done his thing. But I I don't know. I was encouraged urged by the way hayward was playing in part because of the way he was playing in order to set up other guys. What's Brad's rotations? been like the season trucks because like I ah for as much as there's an embarrassment of riches in that starting five. It seems like he could do a lot to sprinkle those guys throughout different units. So that they. We were always at an advantage over the other team. Now I've got a crazy stat for you. Do you know who the youngest rostered the League is this season. I bet it's Boston there. Are you go. They're playing a bunch of young guys like they're giving grant Williams their rookie from Tennessee minutes their plan time Lord Obviously Carson. We're just getting in there. The plane this Guy Devante green from Europe or something have we really Romeo Langford sightings yet the season it's been in the G. League mostly. He's he's been hurt or so he's not playing much but they're playing a bunch of young guys. That's really impressive. They're they're going full youth movement here. Yeah and the one thing with them as they obviously still have that grizzlies please pick just like waiting to be used. And so they add nothing talked about. That's a massive pick so it's it's Protected this season I wanNA say stop. Stop Sex Yellen through six. And then it's unprotected next season so regardless of where falls it's a pretty attractive trait asset and so if they do want to add more to the front court if they do want to get in the mix for the Kevin. Love's the Blake Griffin's any of those guys that might become available. I mean I think they would have a the best shot of anybody. Let's talk about the last young duo that we're and ahead here and because it feels like they've been in the League for a while they've essentially been handcuffed to one another for their entire careers. We don't often think of them as like a hot young. Do we think of them as like a possibly failed science experiment. But we'll talk a little bit about the under twenty five duo Andrew wiggins and Karl Anthony towns. Because they've deal yeah. I think that there's a viable of Wiggins okay. So yesterday I went into various office and I was like this is the probably the best month of Wiggins is career. I think this November so far and I was like what the fuck is happening like. Is it just that he's having good clutch clutch performances so people are like replaying certain sequences and seeing highlights and taking wiggins is back or we arrive finally is Saunders doing something particularly different are. His numbers appreciably different and we kind of were struggling for answers. Justin at least in our conversation if you sort of discovered anything else in in future in like later thinking about it well being benched definitely helps that. During one notable game early in the Season Ryan End Sanders Bench Ryan Saunders. Bench him for quarter. And it really spurred Andrew Wiggins in the fourth quarter He helped win that game. The biggest difference that I've seen is wiggins who he's has this incredible ability to not even fall into an assist. You think considering how much he handles the ball and take shots he would just have like accidentally open man once in a while. Yeah exactly I mean. His first two games of the season he had two assists and that was all in one game he went zero two two zero now. He's starting to spread the ball around. He's playing a little bit. More towns. Better his past four games six assists sevices five assists five assists Aaron Gleam. It had a good stat. The other day I don't know if his change since two November eleventh. I don't think so. But he said in Andrew Wiggins Games five plus rebounds and five plus assists before this season he had seventeen seventeen of those games in four hundred games four percent so far this season she had five assists and five boards. which seems I like the? I guess they're counting stats but like that means engagement in a game in a different way than what he's been doing it before it gets quite simply that I think to for him or any player so before this season they are kind of always playing cat in the post with like Taj Gibson and with there was never much room to get to the rim. And like if there's one player in the league that you don't want to encourage shooting mid range to Andrew wiggins and like there was nowhere to go from taking a bad twos now they're playing cat at the five Covington at the four. The lanes like wide open. And so I think for wiggins like the difficult level of the game is goes way way down with that. What kind of wide open space? It's easier to make passes easier to drive out the numbers and when wiggins is playing without cat. He hasn't been that good really. It's just playing with the cat that looks like this new kind of revived player and now with cat the five to three point line. He has room to operate this back. We back the the wolves are GonNa make ploughs. I said that early on and I'm going to stick to the tape because have conviction in my but you've completely flipped on your Lakers take. I don't remember that at all. What are you talking about next? Take mentality I love. It took this podcast for just a variable Chris rivals back next week with group chat. Thanks for listening. Get Heat check on Mondays. Mismatch Tuesday Thursdays at us on Wednesday. So make sure you're checking out all the ringer.."