Lebron Lebron, Lebron James, Lebron James Fatigue discussed on First Take

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Kind of numbers that doesn't mean those three were better than Jordan and Alon Shack. They warrant, but but they're comparable in every era so when you talk about counting numbers yes. Lebron James like Westbrook did. It's not that they're not super great. It's that that those numbers don't tell you the whole story. That's number one number two. This becomes a religious. have. Yeah Mike to still makes any again all the uses stuff, but they still have to they still as a player. You still have to put in that work. You can't discredit these. Let's talk about. Before they move Lebron. Let's talk about that were grown is great with. Extremely high level. Let's talk about that. Lebron is great, super great, one of the greatest ever including this season. No doubt about it. There's never been a team in the history of basketball with two top five players. That's not a powerhouse I'm not diminishing what he's doing. He is a great point guard. He's the best point guard in basketball. And if he played the four, it'd be. Be The best four and you know like wherever he played. Be The best or second best player in that position in the sport, but you put any to top five players on the same team from any era. They're going to be great. So Lebron is getting a little too much credit for that with the Lakers. Now and finally we could either do this. According to religion or science religion could people including you perk worship at the altar of Lebron? James. Is You have an undisputable hypothesis? In other words, you believe something and no amount of evidence is going to convince you otherwise a scientist. You take the evidence and you adapt as you see it. What are you going to say if and win? Is the finals MVP again this year my prediction is you're gonNA. Come up with excuses for Lebron well. That's because he had Patrick Beverley or this one or that one playing defense and Blah. Blah everything except just acknowledging what we just saw. Max. Max Max your role because last two, I was I was the one of the first people. Mitchell limit about bit Kawhi Leonard Jordan and I got killed about it, and then he went on. One of the greatest playoff runs in the history of the NBA. So you're wrong about that I never so don't act like I'm making. But when I'm telling you right now, the question is is there. Who's the best basketball player in the world and my opinion and I'm standing. Bud Is Lebron James now. You sit up. Co, get some these. Seat the broad say. What's the main? Well. They played three times this year so far the too high profile National Games opening day and Christmas. Did his thing. He was the best player on the floor. Clearly better than Lebron Lebron played. Keep away from coli. Beat them the third time. That's two one Kawai. Let's say the clippers go out and beat the Lakers and Kawhi has better series and the clippers win and go on to win the championship. What would you say then? My prediction is you come up with excuses. Four Lebron, no, I won't make excuses for the brunt if What would use? I mean I won't make excuses for that I really want. Because here's the deal. Guys like Lebron. We always appreciate them when they're no longer around. It's the same thing with Michael. Jordan people appreciated Michael. Jordan further after the fact and didn't realize his greatness. That's why look Lebron James Still. Being the best player in the world because I think so many people, not you Max, but so many people have Lebron James Fatigue because he's been this great. Great his entire career. He was great the mini he stepped on a basketball court and people knew he going to be great. Nobody saw this from from the Bronx. Nobody saw this so at a certain point. We get seduced by the fact that we know he's going to be great and we WANNA. See other people do something and when they do that we. We may inflate them a little bit like I said Max. Not You, but their point of the people that do that Steph. Curry has to MVP one. He definitely deserved, but then the other one but Bron James had a better season. Steph Curry, but I wasn't mad at people giving Steph curry the MVP because of the fact that there was Lebron. James, Fatigue. Fatigue so I still think a lot of Lebron. Keep waiting at a certain point. When is he going to slow down? The guy continues to show that more than ever before he's the best athletes who have ever laid in the NBA and still doing that at this level, the way he plays is tremendous is able to. He's still the best league my for. First of all joy. Heights of the Jordan reached were higher than the heights. That Lebron reached perk. I hate to break it to you, but I will say this for Lebron, not player in the history of the NBA has ever maintained this for this long like he is top three all time at his peak, and he's done it now way deeper into his career, even than Kareem as a pro. Of course, he didn't have the Ford that. The college experiences career day, but he's doing it like that, but that's the proper comparison for Lebron. In terms of that stuff is Kareem, the heights plus the longevity. And that's amazing, but he's not getting extra credit from me. Guys like there were regular seasons where Katie or ask for someone else had a better regular season. Then Lebron not better overall because you have to include the playoffs what I'm saying about? Is Coup. Why just showed near MVP regular season all time great in the play offs. The bronze gotTA show he can still do that and those playoffs can be better than that in the playoffs. We don't have evidence. In the last years twenty years back. We got fresh evidence from coli so Max. If the Lakers do go onto. You. Lebron James is the greatest player in the world. And the best player in the world know. Brian Jana. Leo's do. Do Charlie. No, no, he's not. You know what he's going to do. All he goes, say Oh, he's supposed to do that. He was playing with Anthony Davis, a play ready to see what you're doing because you're GonNa mail what. Lebron James goes out and be not right. What excuses excuses are you gonNA know what is. GOING GONNA come up with when. Why Loses to Lebron James in? Los Angeles School. Let me tell you. What is? Changed the same the same thing I thought when I thought the game had changed to the point where Steph was now the best at the end of that finals and I was there for that game seven at Oracle. I came out the next day on sports nation at the time where the next time we were on and said sorry Lebron I was wrong. You're the best. I was wrong this whole time. I will see the exact same thing if he takes the crown that from. What we do have to debate therefore. You get ready to see. You to get ready to give it up for. Look. The debate has to come to an end for today, but I have a feeling. It is not over for good. I think we can all agree that much. 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