Listen: Harassment, Chapel Becker, UK discussed on The Electorette Podcast
"So there was one woman that I spoke to that was cut membership in the sixties late sixties days and she was talking about how men actually physically don't see her. She feels as they met actually physically see her and that for her. He's photos an intrusion in public space will bump into her though push pasta they will walk in front of line and in front of the line with that she fuses I she's becoming actually physically invisible and also for women again thinking about the the insults and thinking about the breadth of this kind of behavior women from minority ethnic background being subjected to really particular form of sexual harassment that's racialist and so not just being about what you look like in terms of that complementary and feeling that being backed up and underpin sometimes by awesome really racist stereotypes and tropes so the idea that black women should always be up for it so that they should have to engage or the idea that Asia Ltd limited supplies to be submissive that supposed to be passive you know we have in the UK arise of women who are visibly Muslim in public spaces that were in the Chapel Becker being directed corrected for really particular tide of public sexual harassment and it is sexual because they're being directed the harassment directed at them because they're women they're identifiably Muslim in public and so it's that intersection of being both religiously motivated and motivated by sexism or both might vetted by racism and motivated ETA Bhai Sexism and so those women over time you know if that sort of behaviour starts to drop off. I can't imagine that it's experienced as a loss. I mean that that's a that's a really particular form of of telling women that you don't welcome in public you know I think it would be really interesting if we could somehow quantify by the amount of freedom that women lose in relation to the safety work that we do we could quantify it in relation to the amount of freedom that men have you know in the way that we can quantify. I pay equity. I think we can do that. That would be that would be fantastic. I have. I don't know how you would do that but exactly I mean I mean. It's massive. That's the thing the thing that I really found was that it saw it becomes so normalized and it becomes a habitual that women on even thinking of this in terms of reducing see now freedom where you know. It's this idea of safety being intention with freedom to increase your safety. You automatically reduce your freedom but then that's kind kind of being configured as being just part of the way that the world is just part of the way the world is that you don't address light that oil. You don't go that particular at highmore. I'm all you know you walk through the streets. Another thing when we're talking about was this idea of like hardening the targets. I walking through the streets with a stone not to stern you. Don't don't WanNa be told to cheer up a smile but stood enough so people know not to interact with you kind of face on women saying. I don't want to walk through the streets looking like that. Sometimes I'm actually actually really happy but I don't smile because I think that invites behavior and these these tiny little chips away at our ability to be free at our ability ability to be. I think that's the thing that came out for me. It's just the ability to be when you think about public space for loads of women because of all of the work that we have to do in our private spaces or because of experiences of violence in our homes public spaces this unique moment between you know it's we're moving transit train when not at work yet. Oh we're not at school yet or not at the shops yet. We're not doing anything yet am at the same time. We're not at home so we've got kind of time to ourselves. That's what that space should be for that. Commuting time should be for the walking in public should be for that time to just be and the fact that that's what gets taken away the conscious bay that you are having to think an end consider escalation and try and evaluate intentions of of people who you don't know that really disrupts your ability to just be in public space and that's really sad because that's one of the only times that we have you know as women as humans as well but particularly mcneese women with it there isn't that many obligations on us is not that much of the stuff we have to do you know if I try and his late translate. We can't do anything about it. We should be able to enjoy the freedom. That space gives us but we're unable to because we're having to constantly think about safety. Thank you so much for listening. If you enjoyed the episode please leave a five star review on itunes or wherever you listen to podcasts also please make sure you're subscribed to the electric. Just click on the subscribe but in the nineteen or wherever you listen to your podcasts thanks so much again for listening in until next time. Keep up the good fight."