Darren Ruff, Baseball, Ethan Small discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast


Dot com, use the coupon code while 20 to get a discount of $20 on an 80 year subscription, not just for MLB, you can also sign up for other sports versions of stat head if you want. And the great thing that is happening now is that we have listeners who have availed themselves of this opportunity and are now stat head subscribers. And so they are often writing in with their own step less or like answering their own stat blast questions. So Darren wrote in on Monday to note that the brewers Ethan small and the cubs met swarmer faced off as the starting pitcher in that contest and they were each making their major league debut. So we were meeting multiple major leaguers in that game, and they were both starting. And so he wanted to know it seems rare that two starting pitchers would be making their major league debut in the same game. Well, that is stat edible. And he posted about that in the stat blast channel in the Discord group and he is a stat head subscriber to and people walked him through how you find that. And so I will link to those results, but that was the 29th time at least since 1901 that two starting pitchers in the same game we're making their major league debut in that same game. And there's some notable starters who have made debuts in games like that, Jacob de Grom, against chase whitley, JR Richard against Jim Willoughby, Danny maclaine against Fritz ackley, bob forsch against Tom Carroll. It seems like the matchup that yielded the most cumulative career war between the two pitchers was Gaylord Perry against Sammy Ellis in 1962, with a combined for about a hundred war, mostly from mister Perry. We also got a submission along those lines, someone just basically did a full stat blast for us. They should start their own podcast, but listener, Jonathan, a recent subscriber and Patreon supporter and stad head subscriber said that he was watching Sunday's reds giants game, and he noticed that at the start of the 8th inning, Darren ruff entered as a pinch hitter for the Giants and struck out, the Giants batted around, scored 6 runs and rough got a second chance in that inning, but struck out again to end the inning, and then he was replaced by Kurt cassell, so he never took the field. And so Jonathan wondered how many times has that happened before a player participating in a game solely as a pinch hitter and striking out twice. It seems like it would be hard to do because it requires your team to bet around and since you're accounting for two of the three outs on your own that requires at least 7 of the other 8 players in the lineup to reach base safely in that inning. So he got himself a stad head subscription. Instead of asking us to answer this, he did it himself self sufficient. Appreciated this and I hope he used the coupon code while 20 turns out that this was only the third time, at least since 1901 in MLB history that this happened. First accomplished by John Canelo, may 20th, 1990 for Pittsburgh against Atlanta and then Jeff manto for Cleveland September 14th, 1997 against the White Sox, cangelosi was the only other player to ever lead off and end the inning with strikeouts Mentos for strikeout followed. A leadoff single by Omar vizquel. So if we're willing to add on one more qualification we can state that Darren ruff is the first player in MLB history to appear solely as a pinch hitter and strike out to lead off and end an ending in a team victory. So that's a lot of qualifiers, but canoes see pirates lost that 1990 game. So that was fun. And then he went further down the rabbit hole with John cangelosi, who's someone who had a lot of pitch head appearances and multiple plate appearances in those games. I'll throw that in a Google Doc and link to it just so you can see the full stat blast that Jonathan did, but again, stad head dot com. Anyway, the actual step blast is from Carson, who says, this will probably be the most useless question I've ever asked. But that doesn't stop me from wanting to know the answer. What is the most consecutive innings by a single pitcher in which he threw the same number of pitches in each inning? I have no issue with this including relief pitchers spanning multiple games if that makes the answer more interesting, but my question was initially thought up with starters in single games in mind. I sent this question to Lucas pastor laris, listener and baseball perspective, writer and researcher, and he did a little deep dive with his retro sheet database, so he went back to 1988, which is the beginning of reliable pitch by pitch data. He did not count intentional balls as pitches to keep things consistent with the way it works now, but that doesn't change anything in terms of the leader. And he found the answer is melito Perez. Perez in June of 1991, so in one single game, he entered as a reliever he was sort of a swingman that season. He was in the bullpen mostly, but he made some starts, so on June 15th, 1991, Ramon Garcia of the White Sox had a disaster start, he gave up 5 runs in anything in the third, so moledo Perez came in, and he threw 7 and two thirds shutout innings to finish that game for the White Sox, did not allow a run, one walk, three hits, 8 strikeouts, so excellent inning by melito, but he threw 12 pitches in each inning of that game. So one of the innings, I guess, was partial because he came in with one out already, but if we count that, actually, we don't have to count that because the record is 7, 7 innings, he threw 12 pitches a piece. So each of his full innings that day, he took 12 pitches, and then, in his next outing, June 19th, he came in in the 9th as a reliever to finish the game, and he threw one inning and he threw 12 pitches in that inning as well. So, the record within a single game is 7 consecutive innings with the same pitch count by molido pairs and the record across multiple games, any span actually is also mojito Paris. No one has done it even 7 times over multiple spans, but 8 consecutive innings with the same pitch count is the record by Molina Perry is in 1991 and it makes sense that it would be about 12 probably because if you had a very high pitch count, then you would run out of pitches, probably, and it would also mean that you were getting in trouble and getting hit around a bit, so you wouldn't be left in long enough to rack up a long streak, the average going back to 88 has been about 16 pitches per inning. So 12 is probably sort of the sweet spot. The second place finisher is real Cormier in 2000 across multiple games. He threw 6 consecutive innings with 13 pitches apiece, so that's the closest anyone has gotten and in the same game. It's a tie for 5 consecutive innings. And this season, the most anyone has done is for consecutive innings. So this is actually kind of tough to do and kind of have to sustain for any extended stretch of innings. Mojito Perez is your all time leader, at least you're on record leader. Interesting. All right, that will do it for today. All right, if you follow ups from last week, we got a lot of responses to our hypothetical email about a player suffering from glass S syndrome, specifically Ricky Henderson, if Henderson had a glass ass, could he still have been a successful base dealer? Well, it's not quite in keeping with the lighthearted spirit of our answer to that question. But as a number of people pointed out, one of Henderson's contemporaries in a great base dealer in his own right, perhaps the best ever percentage based dealer Tim raines did supposedly have a glass ass of sorts for a little while, reigns acknowledged using cocaine during the 1980s, specifically 1982, and he is reputed to have sometimes kept the vial in his back pocket, which would prevent him from sliding foot first..

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