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Also, it included Radim of religion complete freedom of religion and aspiration, though, they was not always lived up to, to treat the natives with respect and not to in any way violate the decency of what they consider the good community. Most important of all, there would be no slavery, right. And at that time, those rights and especially freedom from slavery weren't even guaranteed to that extent in the original thirteen states. These people felt that just putting all men are created equal into words, wasn't sufficient, all men were created. Equal set our declaration of independence but in. In fact, in all the thirteen colonies now, thirteen states there were slaves. They were saying when you cross the line into this. Our new realm, Ohio, you will be crossing into a place in our country, where there will be indeed, no slaves, and perhaps the man most responsible for that. And also the man without whom there might not have been in Ohio settlement was this fascinating and brilliant, polymath Manasseh Cutler. He something of a forgotten figure in American history. But over and over he just seems to pop up on the periphery of seminal moments in the nation's founding, and he's interacting with founding fathers like Adams, Jefferson Franklin and others kind of like an early. American Forrest Gump. Tell us a little about him Manasseh Cutler was like Benjamin. Frankly, Franklin a classic eighteenth, century polymath. In other words, somebody. Who's interested in in those great deal about almost everything he was three doctors in one. He was Dr law. A doctor of medicine in a doctor of divinity. He spent his life primarily as parson administer at the church in what is now Hamilton, Massachusetts. But he was also, if not the leading botanist anywhere leading botanists in our country, and he was interested in new language interested in everything. And he said out in the summer of seventeen eighty seven to the capital, then in New York, he never been out of New England to lobby is we not would say that we're special Edmund developed yet but to lobby for this idea of a new part of our country where there would be no slavery. And there'd be WMGK Shen and the rest and the miracle of it is he did it. Let me ask you this. David. What drove the first pioneers to settle the Ohio territory. What were they coming there, for well, several things, first of all, as few people know, it must've admit, I didn't know until recently, there was a depression that followed revolutionary war that lasted almost as long as the war itself, which lasted eight and a half years. And it was a worst depression, even they many ways than was the payments, depression of the nineteen thirties. Really? Oh, it was terrible, and particularly in New England. And of course, New England farming was always a struggle with all the rock in the really shallow topsoil, and here was land where the topsoil was four or five feet deep and magnificent trees from which could be made all kinds of products including boats. They could go to see by going further on down the Ohio Mississippi. He then on down to New Orleans now to see which in fact would happen, what kind of adversity were those early settlers up against when they came to Ohio it make a long list, the ad the adversity of just clearing. The trees, the trees were gigantic. There was one stump of a tree, which hollowed out. It. The stump raised up above the ground, maybe twelve feet or so, and six men on horses could get inside. That stump to give you some idea about big these our that's huge. Yes, they're they primeval. They were they'd never been cut down ever. And then there was question of what you need yet to grow corn had to live on deer and turkeys. And in the meantime, you also had forest all around you the howling wilderness said, which was full of wolves and bears, and Wildcats and rattlesnakes. And of course, there was always the possible threat of the natives and addition to that they had Beilin storms blizzards. They had floods the likes of which they never anticipated. They even had an earthquake and then they had epidemic disease, Ma. Pox influenza no hospitals or few doctors but very few and no drug stores and no bandaids. No Kleenex and no inner cities. Yeah, we're going to have a tooth boulder, you were giving birth to a child. So what they use renaissance was whiskey, and it's hard to imagine my generation muddling through, and surviving against those kind of odds..