Oregon, Peter Burnett, California discussed on The Norman Goldman Show

Automatic TRANSCRIPT

Can generally familiar with the topic by varying degrees. My favorite of late has been the Colonel Gladwin bolan. Boy, man. He really he really set the internet on fire with that segment. I let him into Gladwin. I let him into the Facebook group folks. So I hope we're all still cool. Did you create a monster? I don't know. I don't know today. We have another quite informed, gentlemen. Joining us, the host of the new house work show behind the bastards, which does deep dives into horrible people throughout history from Saddam. Hussein's hobby writing erotic fiction to Hitler's spanking fetish, I believe, friends and neighbors benef-. I may. Robert Evans AOL has crack if it's weird weird. There's been a lot of like silent headshaking on this doesn't really translate super well on the podcast. But yeah, who knew we're talking about Oregon, which is if you like. Yeah. If you go to Portland or whatever it seems on the I spent a lot of the last three years in rural southern Oregon, and it's, it's a pretty racist place Josephine county where I was is shock full Nazis. They're quite a lot of them out there. So it's, it's, it's a fascinating place even in the modern day. Oh, yes. Yet, tons of it's one of the most racist counties, and one of the densities of hate groups anywhere in the United States, chock-full, and Nazis turns out, not a good coffee. No, no terrible coffee, terrible craft beer that the Nazis make. So when we, we originally talked off air, Robert one of the things that. We were very interested in both colleagues, but also fans of your show was seeing whether there was a specific person associated with the, the supremacist origins of Oregon kind of setting the tone that we could we could learn a little bit more about with you, and you found the guy, right? Oh my God. I sure did any Peter Burnett. I think Peter is first name. Yeah. Just a tremendous piece of crap, and may be like, there's a long list of super racist politicians in American history. But he's in the running for most racist. He's, he's, he's definitely like, in that conversation for sure. Yeah. We set him briefly as just having been the one that can came up with the idea of exclusionary laws early on before, Oregon became a state, and he loved this idea so much the named it after himself. Burnett lash law, which emitted black people who refuse to leave the state to be given. Lashes like every six months or something like that. Any loved it so much genius idea. The Burnett lash law. Yeah, he was so proud of his, his whipping people rule that he stuck his name on it, which is a special kind of, of terrible. But he was actually like a violent Jere way before he went to Oregon when he was still living in clear creek, Tennessee. He was a shop owner like. General store owner. He suspected, this enslaved black man was every now and then breaking into his store at night to drink from his whiskey barrel, because they stored whiskey. Barrels back then it was a different time. Rather than taking any of the other actions, you might take in this situation. He sets a trap using a rifle, with, like a string tied to the trigger tied to the window shutter. Holy so that when the guy crawled in the middle of the night, this rifle shot him dead. He wasn't charged with the crime, because it was an enslaved man. And he said he was sorry, but that's like, Peter Burnett before he gets into politics. They must have had like a stand your ground law, back in those days to guess I just don't think they had laws. You talking about the eighteen twenties or whatever there was no rules. And that's such a cartoonish sort of rube Goldberg s kind of contraption probably got the kit from acne. That's insane. Okay, go on give us. So one of his early jobs before he gets off to Oregon. I think after he murders this guy with a looney tunes. Traff is he's a lawyer and some of his party's most prominent clients were Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon religion and all of Joseph Smith's, you know, apostles, or whatever all of his friends, because they were on trial for kinda sort of fomenting a frontier war that had broken out in and around Missouri. And so he, he is, these guys lawyer in his main achievement as a lawyer seems to be getting the venue, changed that the court case was being held in this venue change allow Justice myth and all of his guys to escape and run away. And yeah. So that that's his career as a lawyer before he gets on that first big wagon train to Oregon for the great migration and whatnot. Yeah. So yo already covered yet. He made the lash law. He made the exclusion law, which he was he was an abolitionist, but he's like an interesting. We fit when we when you hear about abolitionists in the pre-civil war airy usually think about just the few people who would have been like on the right side of history. But some of them were just abolitionists because they were that racist. They were so racist. And that was Peter Burnett. He was abolitionist that because he didn't like the idea of there being black people anywhere in his state, and he thought that slave labor was bad for white people. So he was like he wound up the right conclusion. Which is slavery was a bad thing. But he wound up there through the most racist chain of logic that he could have possibly gotten to which is always interesting to me, those a sentiment that was big time shared by the majority of people in Oregon began. They did incorporate and be. Become a state, the majority of people voted against Lavery, but also for ousting all the freed black people. Yeah. And I did find when I was doing my research that in eighteen forty at least Burnett had to slaves of his own. This is back when he was living in Missouri. And there's some evidence that when he immigrated to Oregon, he tried to bring one slave with him a young girl who drowned in the Columbia River during the voyage, so not a lot of it's kind of an enticing piece of, like what was going on there. But that that's all the info I found so far on that. Right. Because she was projected to be somewhere between ten to twenty four or something. Yeah, it seems like it might be kind of a creepy. Thomas Jefferson, sort of situation, there suspected that as well. Yeah. So this guy we've talked about, like talked about what he did in Oregon, but after he got done in Oregon, this stewed moved to California, and he became in eighteen forty nine the first governor of California of the state of California. So California's very first leader as a state in the union was this guy Peterberg net who get a lot of terrible things. Maybe my favorite thing he did that isn't terrible was in eighteen fifty. He changed thanksgiving, that year from Thursday to Saturday, just because it was better for him, personally. I mean I can I can give. That it's always weird to me, the thanksgiving Zona Thursday. Yeah. That that's in fun. But he also tried to bring racial exclusion to California with the Chinese. Right. Well, I with black people, he I tried to in his first message to the California legislature. He called exclusion like the first important issue of the first importance the most important thing, the California could do, because he thought black, people are going to take jobs from white people, and that they would be unhappy in California, and cause disruption because they would be second class citizens, because he wasn't gonna let him be anything but second class citizens. So, yeah, he tried to there were like a thousand black people already in California, many of them free, and he tried to have them all kicked out and to stop any more from settling. And that was to racist for eighteen fifties, California. So he lost on that, and he wound up actually lake in eighteen fifty one quitting being the governor over this because he tried a couple of times to get California to ban black people, and they just wouldn't do it. And yeah I mean there's some pretty pretty racist quotes from him that I could read, but that's probably not necessary. But it is fun to note that after he was no longer governor and after his political career was over, as you know, the world continue to advance in modernize in his old age his crusade, as you mentioned was trying to stop the Chinese from coming to California. So he was just just comprehensively racist across the board every chance he got, which is impressive in a terrible way. Yeah. At least you can say he was consistent, but honestly good on you California for anyone listening in the state right now. I think that speaks very highly to the character of the state even as far back as the eighteen fifties. He he also published an autobiography, right? At some point. Yeah. That's where he started. Ranting about Chinese immigration. Yeah. Robert, Shirley got some sort of amazing comeuppance right like burned to death in a fire drowned under suspicious circumstances. Give me a fight with a locomotive. I think he died rich in old. He was in his eighties or somehow, man. That's a bummer. Westwood always happens with these bastards, right? I mean, I bet you're seeing that the Cosby episode, he kinda got us come up. But even that sort of like a pyrrhic victory where it's like too little too late for a guy that's been screwing people over four years on, you know, unchecked. Yeah every now and then you get a Mussalini or Qaddafi where they get dragged out into the street and punished by the people that they spent decades screwing with, but that's almost almost never happens, usually, they die rich in villa somewhere. I'm really glad that you said this Robert because I was listening to the Ghaddafi episode, which I thought was fantastic. An still preparing myself to check out the Weinstein episode which is a two parter, correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That one's a big one. What we'd like to do is again. Thank you for giving us more insight on the life of Peter Hardiman, brunettes, screw that guy. Yeah. Right. But. We were wondering if you could tell our, if you could tell our fellow listeners here, a little bit more about behind the bastards and what they can expect when they tune into your show. Well, I mean, our goal is to tell you, everything you don't know about the very worst people in all of history. So, you know, you've probably that, you know, stoned or whatever in your underpants and watched a lot of documentaries about Hitler on the history channel over the years. But you probably don't know that he based, a lot of his military strategies in his like attitudes on existence in life on a series of young adult. Novels are basically, like the German equivalent of Harry Potter back in the eighteen hundreds. Oh, wow. You know, in in for that matter, while we're on the subject of novelist. You've probably haven't read Saddam Hussein's romance novels, but I have. And that's one of the things we get into in this podcast. I referred to it as a Roddick fiction that crows at a far. No, no. It is very Roddick. In fact, there's a long passage, where an elderly woman yells at children about how sexy mouths are. So that's it's fun. Yeah, those novels in particular largely considered these Meg, low maniacal analogies about his relationship with the country. Yes. And they're, they're, it's one of those weird things there's a lot of cases like with the Kim's in North Korea of being credited to dictators, didn't actually make it Saddam definitely wrote these books when we get into that, to an extent, but they're like, they're mix of rants about modern politics and like utopian fiction, and so it's like a mix of Saddam's screaming at the people he hates and trying to set up the ideal government that he never quite got to make an Iraq. It's, it's a really strange insight into what was going on in the man's head. That's fascinating. I wanna I wanna tune in no spoilers. But could you tell us a little bit about some episodes that are coming up soon yet today? Right now. There is a new episode on Paul Manafort, part, one of which just dropped and part two of which will be Thursday. So that's, that's a big one. I check that out. And we've, we've been doing it ongoing series about king Leopold of Belgium in the Congo, and we're recording episode today about what happened after Leopold, who is one of the worst people in all history and doesn't get enough acknowledgement for just how terrible he was agree. And we're also recording an episode about the serial killer Albert fish with his one of his descendants comedian in LA today. So that's going to be fun. Oh, man that's fascinating. We got a good good slate. We are going to wrap it up today. We wanna thank you so much for coming on the show. Robert Evans friends and neighbors the mastermind behind one of house of works newest podcast behind.

Coming up next